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Old 04-02-2009, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Cheshire, Conn.
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I saw this story yesterday.

Biggest U.S. tax hike on tobacco takes effect - USATODAY.com

I had previously heard that New York's combined taxes on cigarettes would make it the highest of any state's. I'm a little surprised that Connecticut isn't higher on the list.

Here's a list of the top 6 plus and other New England/Mid-Atlantic states:

1 - New York
2 - New Jersey
3 - Massachusetts
4 - Rhode Island
5 - Washington
6 - Alaska
6 - Arizona
6 - Connecticut
6 - District of Columbia
6 - Hawaii
6 - Maine
6 - Maryland
6 - Michigan

14- Vermont
21- Pennsylvania
22- New Hampshire
26- Delaware
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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I guess other states have been raising their taxes while we have not. I am pretty sure we were the highest or close to it a few years ago. Jay
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:14 PM
 
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Thankfully I'm not a smoker. Maybe this will help those who are looking to quit, do so.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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No, you people who are still smoking CAN't quit! The State and Federal government NEEDS those tax dollars for the Children's Health Insurance Program! LIGHT'EM UP! Remember, it is FOR THE CHILDREN!
Oh, and all you NON-users out there, it is your humanitarian duty to buy tobacco products! WHAT, you don't CARE about the poor children who don't have Health Insurance? Just how cold, heartless, and cruel ARE you people, anyway?

Yes, it is very interesting. On the one hand, we have the government saying we need the money to support the poor who can't get medical insurance and health care, and on the other hand we have the government spending millions (if not billions) of dollars on anti-tobacco advertising, trying to make people quit using the stuff. If it is really so bad, why is it still legal to grow it, process it, and sell it? FOLLOW THE MONEY!
Then we have people saying "I didn't know it was unhealthy, the BIG TOBACCO companies LIED to me!" Yeah, right, how STUPID are you? ALL advertising is mostly exageration and half truths! HOW could ANYBODY not know that tobacco is unhealthy? Cigarettes have been known as "cancer sticks" and "coffin nails" as long as I can remember, and that goes clear back into the 1940s! Grade school, junior high, and high school P.E. instructors and coaches have been preaching for well over 60 years, "you can't use tobacco and be on my team, it will wreck your wind!"

Then there is the "second hand smoke" debacle. How much "second hand smoke" does it take to have an adverse effect on health? Will a two second exposure on a sidewalk do it? Does it take a lifetime of exposure in your house? NOBODY will give a definitive answer.

Then there is the "I'm ALLERGIC to cigarette or cigar smoke, but I like the smell of a good pipe tobacco." Uh, sorry, but according to several allergy specialists I have talked to, tobacco smoke is NOT an allergen. You may not like it, and you may be sensitive to it, but you CANNOT be "allergic" to it, and IF you could be allergic to it, you would be allergic to ALL tobacco smoke!

Remember, IT IS FOR THE CHILDREN! and, it is for the financially disadvantaged children, at that!
Do your humanitarian duty, buy tobacco!
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Default Tax increase on tobacco

I quit smoking two years ago and just asked my son, who still smokes, how much he is paying for his cigarettes. Her smokes Marlboro Lights and he says they are $6.00 a pack. I do know that in some places smokes are up to $8.00 a pack. I think the government and states are taxing them so high in hopes that more people will quit...other than that, if you are going to tax anything, make sure it is a bad thing like smokes...you won't hear too many people complain about taxing them...just groan because they are so expensive.

Not easy to quite but if you do the math at $8.00 a pack for how much it costs you in a week, in a month then for the year, almost enough for a good down payment on a car!!

Good Luck all you smokers.....and hopefully this will make more of you quit.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:48 PM
 
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I quit smoking two years ago and just asked my son, who still smokes, how much he is paying for his cigarettes. Her smokes Marlboro Lights and he says they are $6.00 a pack. I do know that in some places smokes are up to $8.00 a pack. I think the government and states are taxing them so high in hopes that more people will quit...other than that, if you are going to tax anything, make sure it is a bad thing like smokes...you won't hear too many people complain about taxing them...just groan because they are so expensive.

Not easy to quite but if you do the math at $8.00 a pack for how much it costs you in a week, in a month then for the year, almost enough for a good down payment on a car!!

Good Luck all you smokers.....and hopefully this will make more of you quit.
My DH smokes parliament lights and they went up to about $7.70

Im forcing him to quit because we cant afford it.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:06 PM
 
Location: New England
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No, you people who are still smoking CAN't quit! The State and Federal government NEEDS those tax dollars for the Children's Health Insurance Program! LIGHT'EM UP! Remember, it is FOR THE CHILDREN!
Oh, and all you NON-users out there, it is your humanitarian duty to buy tobacco products! WHAT, you don't CARE about the poor children who don't have Health Insurance? Just how cold, heartless, and cruel ARE you people, anyway?

Yes, it is very interesting. On the one hand, we have the government saying we need the money to support the poor who can't get medical insurance and health care, and on the other hand we have the government spending millions (if not billions) of dollars on anti-tobacco advertising, trying to make people quit using the stuff. If it is really so bad, why is it still legal to grow it, process it, and sell it? FOLLOW THE MONEY!
Then we have people saying "I didn't know it was unhealthy, the BIG TOBACCO companies LIED to me!" Yeah, right, how STUPID are you? ALL advertising is mostly exageration and half truths! HOW could ANYBODY not know that tobacco is unhealthy? Cigarettes have been known as "cancer sticks" and "coffin nails" as long as I can remember, and that goes clear back into the 1940s! Grade school, junior high, and high school P.E. instructors and coaches have been preaching for well over 60 years, "you can't use tobacco and be on my team, it will wreck your wind!"

Then there is the "second hand smoke" debacle. How much "second hand smoke" does it take to have an adverse effect on health? Will a two second exposure on a sidewalk do it? Does it take a lifetime of exposure in your house? NOBODY will give a definitive answer.

Then there is the "I'm ALLERGIC to cigarette or cigar smoke, but I like the smell of a good pipe tobacco." Uh, sorry, but according to several allergy specialists I have talked to, tobacco smoke is NOT an allergen. You may not like it, and you may be sensitive to it, but you CANNOT be "allergic" to it, and IF you could be allergic to it, you would be allergic to ALL tobacco smoke!

Remember, IT IS FOR THE CHILDREN! and, it is for the financially disadvantaged children, at that!
Do your humanitarian duty, buy tobacco!
LOL I was like "NO WAY this person is from CT!" then I looked at your local.

Well said.

Oh and I'm a non smoker and hate the stuff personally but reality is reality.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:22 PM
 
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There are plenty of neurotic people who say they're "allergic" to cigarette smoke when they really mean "I don't like it." OTOH, there are a hell of a lot of nasty chemicals in your typical cigarette, and I can certainly imagine that someone's allergic to (say) formaldehyde.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Oh stop your whining. Go to the poltiics forum, not the Connecticut one.
Whining? No, not hardly. I quit smoking when Montana voted in the $1 per pack tax on cigarettes to "fund the State Children's Health Insurance Program".
I am merely pointing out the idiocy of funding ANYTHING with a "sin tax", then telling people to quit using the very thing you are taxing to pay for this very important social program. I am also pointing out that the lawsuits over tobacco are just as idiotic as the tax, and that YOU non smokers should pay YOUR fair share of the costs of the social programs supposedly funded by the "sin tax".
Just pointing a sarcastic cynical finger at the world, is all...
That, and laughing at the silly people who populate the world.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:51 PM
 
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There are plenty of neurotic people who say they're "allergic" to cigarette smoke when they really mean "I don't like it." OTOH, there are a hell of a lot of nasty chemicals in your typical cigarette, and I can certainly imagine that someone's allergic to (say) formaldehyde.
I'm not allergic to it per say, but I think what those people mean is it makes their asthma act up. Like it does to mine. When they ruled smoking out of restaurants i was one happy camper. I could not go out to eat without having trouble breathing etc.
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