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Old 08-09-2014, 04:39 PM
 
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There's really only a few bad intersections, mainly Jackson & Willow, that can be fixed much by redesign, IMO. So much of the traffic congestion is caused by bad drivers. The actual amount of traffic is only bad certain times a week. Not really congested, but I can see it getting worse.
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Old 08-09-2014, 04:52 PM
 
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There's really only a few bad intersections, mainly Jackson & Willow, that can be fixed much by redesign, IMO. So much of the traffic congestion is caused by bad drivers. The actual amount of traffic is only bad certain times a week. Not really congested, but I can see it getting worse.
Cookeville seems to have its daily rush hours.

For current and future growth they should add a lane in each direction on Willow, Jefferson, Spring, Jackson and possibly a few others.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:42 PM
 
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There's really only a few bad intersections, mainly Jackson & Willow, that can be fixed much by redesign, IMO. So much of the traffic congestion is caused by bad drivers. The actual amount of traffic is only bad certain times a week. Not really congested, but I can see it getting worse.
I took your post and Don9's response from this thread and created a new thread about Cookeville traffic.

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Cookeville seems to have its daily rush hours.

For current and future growth they should add a lane in each direction on Willow, Jefferson, Spring, Jackson and possibly a few others.
The city council has a plan to improve the traffic situation in Cookeville. The following link is for the city's
"Cookeville 2030 Plan" which has specific goals for things such as traffic, land use, parks, industrial and commercial development, etc. It's a huge pdf file so it might take a while to load. Anyway, I think it's interesting to see what they'd like to do with the roads. I wish they could do them all right now, but many of them involve state roads (such as Willow, Jefferson, and Spring) which means the process could take a while. One good thing about the Academy Sports announcement is that a couple of the projects on the 2030 plan will happen much sooner than expected: the new exit at Mine Lick Creek Road and a connector road to serve the western part of town. This connector road will eventually go all the way between the airport and the area around the Hyder-Burks Pavilion.

Anyway, Cookeville does have a lot of traffic for a town its size, and I wish they'd get to some of these projects sooner rather than later:
  • make Jackson 5 lanes all the way between Willow and Jefferson
  • improve Stevens between Willow and Jefferson
  • make Willow 5 lanes between Broad and 12th
  • add more turn lanes at the Willow/Jackson intersection
  • widen Hwy 70 all the way through town: Broad on the west part of town, Spring on the east part of town
  • widen 10th all the way between Washington and Hwy 111
  • BUILD MORE SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES

Believe it or not, it's a ton easier to get around town now than it used to be. The city did a good job improving Fairgrounds Street, 6th Street, Fisk Road, and Walnut Ave, and building new roads such as Interstate Drive, Veterans Drive, Neal Street, and Jackson Street. I remember when Jackson was only 2 lanes and was only about 2 blocks long west of Willow--it ended at about where the FSG Bank is now. And I remember when Willow was only 2 lanes all the way from Jackson to I-40. I also remember when Old Kentucky Road south of Spring was just a little gravel country road.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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JMT, I do agree that the roads you mentioned are the ones that need the major improvements. Intersection of Willow & Jackson & Willow north of Broad St are by far the 2 biggest traffic problems in town. Didn't see the link for the 2030 plan , but it would be an interesting read.

I've only lived here 5 years, so the way it is now is pretty much all I now of Cookeville. But, from what you've described, it seems like some still think Neal/Interstate Dr is a little back road. 45 mph speed limit and too many people drive 30 in the left lane. I'll admit, I can get pretty frustrated driving around in town. While a drivers education course is now available thru the High School, ( thru the hard work of many kids in the Test Club and their sponsors), why it is not mandatory in the state of Tn I just don't understand.
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Old 08-10-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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I took your post and Don9's response from this thread and created a new thread about Cookeville traffic.



The city council has a plan to improve the traffic situation in Cookeville. The following link is for the city's
"Cookeville 2030 Plan" which has specific goals for things such as traffic, land use, parks, industrial and commercial development, etc. It's a huge pdf file so it might take a while to load. Anyway, I think it's interesting to see what they'd like to do with the roads. I wish they could do them all right now, but many of them involve state roads (such as Willow, Jefferson, and Spring) which means the process could take a while. One good thing about the Academy Sports announcement is that a couple of the projects on the 2030 plan will happen much sooner than expected: the new exit at Mine Lick Creek Road and a connector road to serve the western part of town. This connector road will eventually go all the way between the airport and the area around the Hyder-Burks Pavilion.

Anyway, Cookeville does have a lot of traffic for a town its size, and I wish they'd get to some of these projects sooner rather than later:
  • make Jackson 5 lanes all the way between Willow and Jefferson
  • improve Stevens between Willow and Jefferson
  • make Willow 5 lanes between Broad and 12th
  • add more turn lanes at the Willow/Jackson intersection
  • widen Hwy 70 all the way through town: Broad on the west part of town, Spring on the east part of town
  • widen 10th all the way between Washington and Hwy 111
  • BUILD MORE SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES

Believe it or not, it's a ton easier to get around town now than it used to be. The city did a good job improving Fairgrounds Street, 6th Street, Fisk Road, and Walnut Ave, and building new roads such as Interstate Drive, Veterans Drive, Neal Street, and Jackson Street. I remember when Jackson was only 2 lanes and was only about 2 blocks long west of Willow--it ended at about where the FSG Bank is now. And I remember when Willow was only 2 lanes all the way from Jackson to I-40. I also remember when Old Kentucky Road south of Spring was just a little gravel country road.
This is all good news! I still have a strong feeling Cookeville is going to grow at a much faster pace going forward. Even if the country as a whole slips back into a recession I think Cookeville will continue to grow.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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JMT, I do agree that the roads you mentioned are the ones that need the major improvements. Intersection of Willow & Jackson & Willow north of Broad St are by far the 2 biggest traffic problems in town. Didn't see the link for the 2030 plan , but it would be an interesting read.

I've only lived here 5 years, so the way it is now is pretty much all I now of Cookeville. But, from what you've described, it seems like some still think Neal/Interstate Dr is a little back road. 45 mph speed limit and too many people drive 30 in the left lane. I'll admit, I can get pretty frustrated driving around in town. While a drivers education course is now available thru the High School, ( thru the hard work of many kids in the Test Club and their sponsors), why it is not mandatory in the state of Tn I just don't understand.
Here's the link: http://www.cookeville-tn.org/plannin...le2030plan.pdf

Having driver's ed in school is actually more of the exception now than the norm, at least in TN. I agree, I think it should be a required course. And yes, it can be frustrating trying to get through town if you're in a hurry.

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This is all good news! I still have a strong feeling Cookeville is going to grow at a much faster pace going forward. Even if the country as a whole slips back into a recession I think Cookeville will continue to grow.
I hope you're right. It is somewhat insulated from the whims of the economy because of the university and the hospital, but it's still lost some of its momentum the last few years. I hope all this good economic news lately will spur some new growth. We could certainly use more restaurants and shopping (ahem, Publix and Target).
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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Here's the link: http://www.cookeville-tn.org/plannin...le2030plan.pdf

Having driver's ed in school is actually more of the exception now than the norm, at least in TN. I agree, I think it should be a required course. And yes, it can be frustrating trying to get through town if you're in a hurry.



I hope you're right. It is somewhat insulated from the whims of the economy because of the university and the hospital, but it's still lost some of its momentum the last few years. I hope all this good economic news lately will spur some new growth. We could certainly use more restaurants and shopping (ahem, Publix and Target).
The economic news is the leading edge of new growth with more to follow imo. I think business is looking for places like Cookeville and moving away from expensive metro areas that are turning anti-business. I think people are looking for places like Cookeville where living is more affordable and you don't have the crime and congestion of a metro concrete jungle. Cookeville is unique and attractive for many reasons. It is positioned well for good future growth.
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:46 PM
 
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The economic news is the leading edge of new growth with more to follow imo. I think business is looking for places like Cookeville and moving away from expensive metro areas that are turning anti-business. I think people are looking for places like Cookeville where living is more affordable and you don't have the crime and congestion of a metro concrete jungle. Cookeville is unique and attractive for many reasons. It is positioned well for good future growth.
Oh I agree with you 100%. I knew it was just a matter of time before Cookeville finally landed some great economic news. It has pretty much all the recipes for what companies want: good location, interstate and rail access, inexpensive land, cheap taxes, low cost of utilities, a mid-major university, a community college, and an abundant workforce. The university and community college alone can provide thousands of educated workers, not to mention the highly skilled engineers and tech people that so many businesses need these days.

I also think the city and county are fortunate to have kept up with, for the most part, the infrastructure (schools, roads, public safety). There's always room for improvement, of course, particularly with the roads.
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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10th is a nightmare from 2:30 until 5:00 or so (even without school in session)....the cost to widen this traffic bottleneck would be quite expensive....the city's reluctance to widen part of it....Old Kentucky to 111 may have kept Publix from building on that side of town....per hearsay....

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Old 08-11-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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10th is a nightmare from 2:30 until 5:00 or so (even without school in session)....the cost to widen this traffic bottleneck would be quite expensive....the city's reluctance to widen part of it....Old Kentucky to 111 may have kept Publix from building on that side of town....per hearsay....
I don't know why they haven't improved 10th between Old Kentucky Road and 111. For that matter, on the other side of 111 into Algood it needs to be improved, too. At any rate, it's probably too late to improve the rest of 10th Street at this point, it would cost a fortune. That's too bad, too. I guess the city plans to build another east-west route further north.

That does seem like a perfect area for Publix: high visibility, upper income area. That land is currently zoned residential, and I'm surprised it hasn't been developed yet. I could see Publix at the SE corner of Old Kentucky and Buck Mountain, too.
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