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Old 04-21-2017, 07:18 AM
 
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ExxonMobil chooses South Texas for $10 billion plant creating thousands of jobs | KFDM

Only 600 permanent jobs but thousands of construction jobs. Over $1 billion in incentives from state of Texas.

Thoughts?
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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ExxonMobil chooses South Texas for $10 billion plant creating thousands of jobs | KFDM

Only 600 permanent jobs but thousands of construction jobs. Over $1 billion in incentives from state of Texas.
Thoughts?
Kinda makes sense as this is where the Keystone pipline 'ends' ; a new refinery to process all that (new) flow = $$$

A good time to be a chemical engineer (or studying to be) . . .
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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I thought Keystone ended in Port Arthur?
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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I was right, it does end in Port Arthur:

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Old 04-21-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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I thought Keystone ended in Port Arthur?
I thought it ended in Port Arthur too.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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CC has become a good mixture of relatively low labor cost (compared to much of the Gulf Coast), relatively high base education (compared to Mexico or South America), access to an expanding industrial based (ChemTex, et al), close to 'new' oil fields (Eagle Ford) and close to a big market for refinery products (Mexico).

Houston has gotten more expensive and is still nonattainment for ozone (albeit moderate now), and Beaumont is more remote from the current and projected crude reserves.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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Okay, actually read the link now .

That is not a refinery (not sure why I thought it was) nor will it need crude at all - ethylene (and ethylene glycol) will be dependent completely on natural gas. Which is abundant (currently overly so) in the EFS. This is a great fit for the oil folks, as more demand for natural gas will maintain the drilling operations at lower crude prices.

All the same reasons to build it there still exist. And the Port of CC can handle additional capacity better than Houston right now, since it is so crammed with commerce currently....
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Old 04-24-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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All the same reasons to build it there still exist. And the Port of CC can handle additional capacity better than Houston right now, since it is so crammed with commerce currently....
This. The ports of Beaumont, Galveston, Lake Charles, Cameron, Corpus Christi, Port Arthur, and even Brownsville are absorbing some of the extra business from Houston. The problem with Houston is that there simply isn't any real estate left along the Houston Ship Channel. In an unusual twist of irony, Galveston is getting more port business because Houston is doing so well. It used to be it tried to compete and never won.

I was looking at the google maps around the plant and there are still plenty of farm fields around there, so plenty of land for expansion should they need it.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:26 PM
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Occidental just fired up a Ethylene Cracker in Corpus There will probably be more to come !
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Old 04-27-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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On plants like this 600 jobs isn't actually 600. Because of the maintenance and overhaul requirements on these facilities and the high pay involved they have the highest job multipliers of any type of investment. Last time I looked they generate 9 jobs per full time job at the plant. Just look between Leopard and I-37 to see the extra employment the refineries kick off. Even the outlying facilities like the Three rivers refinery and the Point Comfort plant buy a bunch of equipment and services in Corpus. It's a good fit, it creates some diversification away from just oil and peels off some of the product that would otherwise just get pumped through here. A huge local source for ethylene opens up some other manufacturing opportunities as well.
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