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Originally Posted by Leisesturm
I've learned from this thread that the Spanish Flu was in 1918. That does not fit my definition of "modern". Vaccines better not be "the only way to go" with respect to Ebola since we don't have one, and are not likely to for at least a year. The smallpox and polio vaccines were perfected before I was born. I am now 55. Is it just me or should we have more to show for the last 50 years than Viagra. The brother of a good friend died last week. Throat cancer. 25 years ago he got it, and the treatment plan was surgery, chemo and radiation. The surgery destroyed his ability to speak, the radiation destroyed his ability to taste and salivate. Moreover he only had a 5 to 7 year life expectancy after all that. Well he beat the odds, hooray... I can't imagine wanting to without much of a tongue, or the ability to speak or taste... but here's the thing... when his cancer came back 25 years later, there wasn't a single chemo drug available that was different from what he had 25 years ago... there was only the same surgical options and more radiation... so he opted not to have any treatment at all. In a different state they would have tried to force him into a hospital but this is Oregon. At least in Oregon you are not forced to endure the fumblings of doctors that are still using techniques that were mature protocols a generation ago.
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There have been great strides in treating cancers, but apparently not all of them. Or maybe the physician was older, maybe a modern cancer treatment center would have been better. When we were younger, cancer was virtually a death sentence!
Among other types of drugs, I personally am taking some that were commonplace a generation ago, and others that are vast improvements on earlier drugs, more effective with fewer side-effects.
There's a lot of interesting research going on in cancer, targeting the cancer cells precisely without harming the normal cells, but all of that needs to go through lengthy testing before being released to the general public.
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Someone out there should be sued for her getting sick. CDC bigwigs are safe and sound, while putting common healthworkers out there as disposable labour in their little 'let's show the world how great we are' game. Disgusting.
Why aren't the dudes in charge out there mopping up ebola vomit and blood instead of giving press conferences??? Bet they'd be singing a very different tune, very quickly.
For the same reasons that a modern, professional army doesn't put generals on the front lines.
The CDC can't force anyone to do anything, they work in advisory, teaching, testing, and research capacities only.
MOSCOW, Sept. 24 (Xinhua) -- Some 335 students from high-risk regions in Africa remain in quarantine in Russia for Ebola, a Russian health official said Wednesday.
About 1,000 residents from African countries were put in quarantine for the virus, and the majority have been cleared, the Interfax news agency quoted Chief Sanitary Inspector Anna Popova as saying.
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Originally Posted by Hopes
I'll bet it's cheaper to quarantine 1,000 people for 21 days when they enter the country than it costs to treat one ebola patient.
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Originally Posted by EvilCookie
Oh no, America would never do that - that would be a restriction of freedom!!! Those poor students!
/sarcasm, for anyone that can't tell
I had just been going to make a comment about how Russia would handle this. Just as I thought...the CORRECT way.
I had just been going to make a comment about how Russia would handle this. Just as I thought...the CORRECT way.
Same in China: they've had several disease outbreaks there, cholera or something was the latest I believe? Stopped them right away by quarantining the village where it occurred.
Is the US gov't really so much more incompetent than all these other nations???
For the same reasons that a modern, professional army doesn't put generals on the front lines.
The CDC can't force anyone to do anything, they work in advisory, teaching, testing, and research capacities only.
Yea - generals inviting in a dangerous enemy with open arms and then sending out their troops on a senseless death mission Exactly what's happening here.
Same in China: they've had several disease outbreaks there, cholera or something was the latest I believe? Stopped them right away by quarantining the village where it occurred.
Is the US gov't really so much more incompetent than all these other nations???
Yes, they are, with all this PC crap and not stepping on toes of freedom.
It would be a great place to store Christmas decorations and such.
we eventually turned our early '60's fallout shelter my dad build as an attachment to the basement as a room to keep the chest freezer, a place to keep firewood and the escape tunnel that led to the garage made a nice place to set up the targets for our basement gun range where we earned our NRA sharpshooting medals.
we eventually turned our early '60's fallout shelter my dad build as an attachment to the basement as a room to keep the chest freezer, a place to keep firewood and the escape tunnel that led to the garage mage a nice place to set up the targets for our basement gun range where we earned our NRA sharpshooting medals.
Maybe you should consider cleaning out the bomb shelter.
Maybe you should consider cleaning out the bomb shelter.
Ha Ha Ha, "BOMB shelter" I'd forgotten that term
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Exactly what's happening here.
