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Old 09-30-2014, 11:39 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1xvdZMC10

This pretty much sums up my feelings on the church. I love the end part
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:48 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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That is just classic how you say...there has been some evil. That is an understatement of all understatements! Evil and heinous acts carried out around the globe by the Roman Catholic church has been present since at least 700. That is over 1300 years of murder, torture, satanic ceremonies, and kidnapping and diddling children! This organization has had so many phases including that of a Roman cult that practiced satanism replete with child sacrifices, burning people alive, cannibalism, demonic worship, etc...the list goes on and on. That is a historical fact, my friend. It is a pity that religious followers know squat about a group to which they belong.

Of course the hierarchy gets involved now. They are the laughing stock of all that is good and decent in this world. They have a horribly gruesome and truly evil history, and now dwindling numbers of followers. They are scared of losing their power, wealth and influence, so they are forced to get involved and put on a good show. How you cannot see this is truly astonishing. I would bet my paycheck that this is the sole reason Pope Francis is the new pope. He is the new savior of the hierarchy.

Nice try with your counter on brainwashing. Your last statement is as empty as your willingness to learn about the group you are supporting.
And I ask again: do you think these evil and heinous acts have been carried out by the Church alone or do you acknowledge that they occur with equal or greater frequency outside the Church? And do you have enough "willingness to learn" that the Church has also done a tremendous amount of good in the world?

Taking the few cases of priestly abuse as proof that the Church is evil is like taking a few instances of white cops shooting blacks as proof that the entire law enforcement community of the country is racist.

Let's be reasonable shall we? No one in the Catholic Church condones "child sacrifices, burning people alive, cannibalism, demonic worship, etc."
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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And I ask again: do you think these evil and heinous acts have been carried out by the Church alone or do you acknowledge that they occur with equal or greater frequency outside the Church? And do you have enough "willingness to learn" that the Church has also done a tremendous amount of good in the world?

Taking the few cases of priestly abuse as proof that the Church is evil is like taking a few instances of white cops shooting blacks as proof that the entire law enforcement community of the country is racist.

Let's be reasonable shall we? No one in the Catholic Church condones "child sacrifices, burning people alive, cannibalism, demonic worship, etc."
What does it matter the frequency it happens outside of the church? It shouldn't happen in the church AT ALL. People put their faith & trust in the church. The church is supposed to be trustworthy. These acts are the exact opposite. It's a complete betrayal! Do you support that?
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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What does it matter the frequency it happens outside of the church? It shouldn't happen in the church AT ALL. People put their faith & trust in the church. The church is supposed to be trustworthy. These acts are the exact opposite. It's a complete betrayal! Do you support that?


I am no lover of Catholic catechism but you miss the point.


Remove the word "church" from the above and insert "police".

The police, like any church, are a small part of society who people look to for help, safety, etc... but they fail big time as does any institution where humans can sway towards good or bad.

As for entities failing society look no further than the federal government.
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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I am no lover of Catholic catechism but you miss the point.


Remove the word "church" from the above and insert "police".

The police, like any church, are a small part of society who people look to for help, safety, etc... but they fail big time as does any institution where humans can sway towards good or bad.

As for entities failing society look no further than the federal government.
What are you even talking about? This thread is about an archbishop, the church. Not the police, not the federal government. Start another thread if you want to go there. I'm not missing any point at all.
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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And I ask again: do you think these evil and heinous acts have been carried out by the Church alone or do you acknowledge that they occur with equal or greater frequency outside the Church? And do you have enough "willingness to learn" that the Church has also done a tremendous amount of good in the world?

Taking the few cases of priestly abuse as proof that the Church is evil is like taking a few instances of white cops shooting blacks as proof that the entire law enforcement community of the country is racist.

Let's be reasonable shall we? No one in the Catholic Church condones "child sacrifices, burning people alive, cannibalism, demonic worship, etc."
how can you justify child rape, and abuse of other kinds against children by the church and say.. but they do a lot of good in the world. give me a break, are you so brainwashed.... children were born to catholic girls and given to couples living abroad for a hefty gift to the church.. some of the young mothers kept in servitude in Magdalene asylums for years as if theyd committed a crime.. the church stinks to high heaven if there is one. so dont preach to us about the church doing good.. their evil. and PLEASE dont give us this sh-t about it happens more outside the church.. it shouldnt be happening at all. this is the one place where children can go and talk and feel safe not to be molested by priests or nuns.. this has been covered up for far too long and all these creeps have got away with it by either dying off thankfully or being sent to other churches to hide away... the whole of their establishment is rotten..
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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And I ask again: do you think these evil and heinous acts have been carried out by the Church alone or do you acknowledge that they occur with equal or greater frequency outside the Church? And do you have enough "willingness to learn" that the Church has also done a tremendous amount of good in the world?

Taking the few cases of priestly abuse as proof that the Church is evil is like taking a few instances of white cops shooting blacks as proof that the entire law enforcement community of the country is racist.

Let's be reasonable shall we? No one in the Catholic Church condones "child sacrifices, burning people alive, cannibalism, demonic worship, etc."
You have got to be kidding when you say a few cases. Look at this link. This is in the US alone! Imagine the numbers throughout the globe! Database of Priests Accused of Sexual Abuse

So what you are saying is that because of the charity work done by the Catholic Church, the evil and heinous acts are cancelled out. That is just classic, Retroit. If no one in the Catholic church condones the horrid acts done by this church, then they should leave in droves and leave the cesspit to rot as it fully and wholly deserves. Remaining part of this vile organization speaks louder than anything, in my opinion.
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Old 10-01-2014, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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You have got to be kidding when you say a few cases. Look at this link. This is in the US alone! Imagine the numbers throughout the globe! Database of Priests Accused of Sexual Abuse

So what you are saying is that because of the charity work done by the Catholic Church, the evil and heinous acts are cancelled out. That is just classic, Retroit. If no one in the Catholic church condones the horrid acts done by this church, then they should leave in droves and leave the cesspit to rot as it fully and wholly deserves. Remaining part of this vile organization speaks louder than anything, in my opinion.
you tell em Tam.. now were talking... pity the law cant take over and arrest and try all these creeps,and put them in some dungeon to prey or pray on each other...
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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The Catholic Church needs to get rid of kneeling for a few years, that's entrapment for some of those freaks.
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:45 AM
 
Location: CA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1xvdZMC10

This pretty much sums up my feelings on the church. I love the end part
Brilliant. How much do you want to bet that not a single Catholic will watch it.
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