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Old 10-09-2014, 04:18 PM
 
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Im sorry that anyone out there has been a victim of molestation or that their kids have but at the end of the day its nothing that im going to curl up into a fetal position and weep all night long over. I dont know you or your kids; i have absolutely no emotional attachment to any of you so other than a typical "well gee that sucks. Sorry about that" comment i really have no feelings about any of it. Yes, even as a Christian i can still say that because i know that there is evil in the world and nothing not even me crying over every little thing is going to change that. So if that makes me a realist, or a sociopath, or something else i really dont care.
You're not a sociopath or anything like that. I never meant to imply that at all. I just wanted to understand your thinking. We all bring our experiences to our own views and beliefs. I personally think you and others are looking at this in a clinical way with overtures of religious forgiveness. I am so sorry if you felt that you were being picked on or demonized.

I think many of us do know children who have been abused, and it hurts my heart to see their tears and listen to their stories.i have an emotional and karmic view of this situation. I think the molesters reap what they sow.

Sometimes I have found out about abuse because a student has become highly sexualized and aggressive with other students. Also students who quit grooming themselves and not bathing is a sign. These are not your happy go lucky six year olds. They are deeply traumatized and it seriously affects them.

Maybe I have missed identifying abuse through the years, but I keep a sharp eye out.

That's part of why I have a hard time forgiving. When you've held a crying five year old in your arms, it hardens your heart to the offender.

Back to the OP - I do think that there is more to this story. I think he came clean a bit in the therapy session because his wife had already found out about it. I believe he is trying to minimize what he did and make it seem like it was nothing. When I listened to the tape, I didn't hear a remorseful and regretful man. He was so matter of fact about it.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:26 PM
 
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Feeling bad for them. And I can't help but wonder if he ever tried something with one of them, but they just couldn't tell anyone?
I doubt it. Kids on set are fairly protected nowadays, and I am sure the set was squeaky clean.

I know one victim was a neighbor and the other was a family member of his wife. I am sure he groomed them like many molesters do. The severity of his offenses is not known, but he admitted to one happening over the course of a few years. Whether he reoffended, who can know?
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:44 PM
 
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Hollywood is full of them
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Back to the OP - I do think that there is more to this story. I think he came clean a bit in the therapy session because his wife had already found out about it. I believe he is trying to minimize what he did and make it seem like it was nothing. When I listened to the tape, I didn't hear a remorseful and regretful man. He was so matter of fact about it.
That may be because we are talking about significantly older children than the ones of whom you were speaking, and his offenses do not appear to have involved violence or penetration.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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You're not a sociopath or anything like that. I never meant to imply that at all. I just wanted to understand your thinking. We all bring our experiences to our own views and beliefs. I personally think you and others are looking at this in a clinical way with overtures of religious forgiveness. I am so sorry if you felt that you were being picked on or demonized.
No, wasnt feeling demonized or anything. Just wanted to put that out there for all those screaming "but the kids!!! Think of the kids!!! Their sooooo precious and you just have to break down and cwy if anything happens to them boo hoo hoo"

Umm no, dont think so.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:27 PM
 
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I saw that this morning.

I'm glad the police were told and are investigating, but I really have to wonder about the ex's motives. Why send it to TMZ?

Did she try to blackmail him first?

Did she just want to get 'even' with him for divorcing her?
frankly I don't care

any light shone on these Monsters is good light.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:41 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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I thought Christ said that the greatest commandment was 1. To love God with all of your heart AND 2. To love others (including children) as you love yourself.

Hmmmmm........ where to go with this one.....?
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz
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I listened to the audio this morning and it was evident in the tone of his voice that he did not consider it a big deal - sociopath. This just is not the kind of thing that one does a couple of times and quits. I can imagine the horror that his ex-wife felt in learning that she had coexisted with this filth. A man without a soul cannot be saved, nothing there to save.
Thanks for this, I couldn't listen to it. So it's nice to hear your opinion.

But I disagree upon one thought, certainly people can "do it" a few times and then quit. It's very possible. People are different.

I hope he has a Soul to save..if not, well that is so true
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz
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That is a myth. The actual statistics have been posted many times on this forum.

Recidivism Studies - USA FAIR, Inc
Thanks so much, I am new to this forum so appreciate you re-posting this.

I will surely not further this myth. So nice to know, thanks again
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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No, wasnt feeling demonized or anything. Just wanted to put that out there for all those screaming "but the kids!!! Think of the kids!!! Their sooooo precious and you just have to break down and cwy if anything happens to them boo hoo hoo"

Umm no, dont think so.
I can sympathize. Even though I myself do like children (I have three), any time I hear a politician talking about everything he's going to do "for the children" I know there's some sort of emotional blackmail con job being perpetrated, and know I will never vote for that person.
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