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Old 12-06-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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Unfortunately the hostages were both killed in the ensuing firefight.

But still, I have to give credit to the administration for giving their best effort to rescue them.

Apologies if this has already been posted.
Luke Somers Raid in Yemen: How It Went Wrong - WSJ
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Old 12-06-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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At least he died like a man and not like an animal being executed. Our boys also got more practice exterminating that vile bunch of cowards. That's a good thing.
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Old 12-06-2014, 09:59 AM
 
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At least he died like a man and not like an animal being executed. Our boys also got more practice exterminating that vile bunch of cowards. That's a good thing.
I agree.

He didn't die like an animal butchered before a camera by those sick pukes.
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Old 12-06-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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At least he died like a man and not like an animal being executed. Our boys also got more practice exterminating that vile bunch of cowards. That's a good thing.
Well, I certainly agree with that.

One thing, though. None of those hostages were executed. They were murdered. Not surprisingly, NBC is quite fond of reporting them as "executions" while most others call them "beheadings."

Let's not lend credence to their barbarism by implying that it's comparable to capital punishment.
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Old 12-06-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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Well, I certainly agree with that.

One thing, though. None of those hostages were executed. They were murdered. Not surprisingly, NBC is quite fond of reporting them as "executions" while most others call them "beheadings."

Let's not lend credence to their barbarism by implying that it's comparable to capital punishment.
you are right, that one got by me.

we have so mushed our English vocabulary together that we lose sight of the real meaning and nuance of words.

My daughter drives me crazy with that. One word can mean a range of things to her
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:19 AM
 
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Sad news. But focusing on "what went wrong" is ridiculous - there are always so many risks and variables in these situations that you can't expect a "happy ending" like in the movies every time.
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:55 PM
 
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Agreed, better then sitting around, waiting for the inevitable. Very sad for the other hostage and his family, they had supposedly negotiated his release for tomorrow.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:05 PM
 
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American, South African hostages die in rescue attempt in Yemen | Reuters

The WSJ article was behind a paywall and I couldn't read it.

New details saying that a group called "Gift of the Givers" had negotiated for the release of their hostage and that he was to be released the next day. The same group had secured the release of the wife of the South African hostage earlier this year. I don't think that the release applied to the American hostage, though.

Without knowing anything more about the situation, I suspect that the terrorists pulled off a somewhat thought-out trap. They may or may not have really intended to release the South African but certainly had their bases covered by keeping the American hostage near by as insurance, after giving hope that the other hostage was to be released.

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Old 12-06-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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It sounds cold, but we really should stop trying rescue people who go to these third and forth world dumps. The sad part is most of these people are educated, but ignore the risk.
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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Well, I certainly agree with that.

One thing, though. None of those hostages were executed. They were murdered. Not surprisingly, NBC is quite fond of reporting them as "executions" while most others call them "beheadings."

Let's not lend credence to their barbarism by implying that it's comparable to capital punishment.
Not surprisingly, you're trying to politicize this when, in fact, you're just demonstrating the fact that you don't understand what certain words mean.

Quote:
execute
[ek-si-kyoot]

verb (used with object), executed, executing.

1. to carry out; accomplish: to execute a plan or order.

2. to perform or do: to execute a maneuver; to execute a gymnastic feat.

3. to inflict capital punishment on; put to death according to law.

4. to murder; assassinate.

5. to produce in accordance with a plan or design: a painting executed by an unknown artist.

6. to perform or play (a piece of music).

7. Law. to give effect or force to (a law, decree, judicial sentence, etc.). to carry out the terms of (a will).
to transact or carry through (a contract, mortgage, etc.) in the manner prescribed by law; complete and give validity to (a legal instrument) by fulfilling the legal requirements, as by signing or sealing.
Execute | Define Execute at Dictionary.com

Maybe you've learned something from this... but I doubt it.
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