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A former U.S. Air Force veteran has been arrested by the FBI for allegedly trying to join ISIS, the brutal terrorist group wreaking havoc in Syria and Iraq, after watching their online propaganda videos, authorities announced today.
Tairod Nathan Webster Pugh, 47, who is from New Jersey but had been living overseas for years, was secretly arrested two months ago after being deported back to the United States.
Given what ISIS stands for and Mr. Pugh's history of military service (and understanding that the man has not been convicted of anything), I consider this to be the ultimate betrayal. Completely unforgivable, if true.
the ultimate betrayal is our politicians sending our soldiers off to fight bs wars for their own financial benefit. if this guy wants to join isis, let him join isis.
the ultimate betrayal is our politicians sending our soldiers off to fight bs wars for their own financial benefit. if this guy wants to join isis, let him join isis.
Let him join ISIS, which has openly stated that it seeks to attack the US through terror campaigns? Let him freely join an organization that is slaughtering/persecuting religious minorities, women (and raping them), and gays? Are you a leftist?
Are there moral and ethical questions surrounding this choice? Probably. But ultimately, if you aspire to join a high-profile terrorist organization, you can.
You americans take your patriotism too seriously. Not everyone is going to be as devoutly allegiant to your country as you wish. Military career or not.
Are there moral and ethical questions surrounding this choice? Probably. But ultimately, if you aspire to join a high-profile terrorist organization, you can.
You americans take your patriotism too seriously. Not everyone is going to be as devoutly allegiant to your country as you wish. Military career or not.
Ah, not surprised that people are sticking up for the unfettered right of people to join an organization as repressive and murderous as ISIS. One that is slaughtering/raping men, women, children and persecuting countless minorities. Thankfully, regardless of whether not "everyone is going to be as devoutly allegiant to your country as you wish," there are laws in place to deal with individuals like the subject of the article.
Let him join ISIS, which has openly stated that it seeks to attack the US through terror campaigns? Let him freely join an organization that is slaughtering/persecuting religious minorities, women (and raping them), and gays? Are you a leftist?
basically. but i like how you said it!
oh and no, im not a leftist. im not a rightist either.
Ah, not surprised that people are sticking up for the unfettered right of people to join an organization as repressive and murderous as ISIS. One that is slaughtering/raping men, women, children and persecuting countless minorities. Thankfully, regardless of whether not "everyone is going to be as devoutly allegiant to your country as you wish," there are laws in place to deal with individuals like the subject of the article.
I only made that comment because you seemed particularly sniped by that fact that he was ex-military. You kept harping on the 'ultimate betrayal'. Which, just seemed overly dramatized, but whatever. I don't see how that fact that he's ex-military makes his decisions to join ISIS anymore heinous. Unless, of course, you're talking about patriotism.
No one is encouraging these organizations. However, if people are going to join a terrorist organization, I'm not really sure where focusing the efforts on preventing people from joining is going to make difference? Sure, they caught this guy but there are probably plenty of others who've joined since this organization became mainstream. In my eyes, if people are twisted enough to come to a decision to join this organization, there's not much you can do other than overcrowding your jails. Do they plan on un-converting him or making him a patriot again lol?
so if they dont join Isis, what are they? a potential terrorist living in america? it seems to be in your best interest to let them join.
No, what is in my best interest is intelligence services being on their game and collecting enough evidence of their terrorist ways that will lead to a lengthy prison term well before they can cause harm in the US or abroad. What is in my best interest is what happened here; the vet neither got to join ISIS and was apprehended by US authorities, which means he is not an immediate threat to anyone. Your way just leaves them free to cause mayhem overseas and potentially engage in attacks on the homeland.
No, what is in my best interest is intelligence services being on their game and collecting enough evidence of their terrorist ways that will lead to a lengthy prison term well before they can cause harm in the US or abroad. What is in my best interest is what happened here; the vet neither got to join ISIS and was apprehended by US authorities, which means he is not an immediate threat to anyone. Your way just leaves them free to cause mayhem overseas and potentially engage in attacks on the homeland.
how do you lock up someone that hasnt committed any crimes?
I only made that comment because you seemed particularly sniped by that fact that he was ex-military. You kept harping on the 'ultimate betrayal'. Which, just seemed overly dramatized, but whatever. I don't see how that fact that he's ex-military makes his decisions to join ISIS anymore heinous.
No one is encouraging these organizations. However, if people are going to join a terrorist organization, I'm not really sure where focusing the efforts on preventing people from joining is going to make difference? Sure, they caught this guy but there are probably plenty of others who've joined since this organization became mainstream. In my eyes, if people are twisted enough to come to a decision to join this organization, there's not much you can do other than overcrowding your jails. Do they plan on unconverting him lol?
Sure, you won't stop everyone from joining, but the efforts in place now to restrict access to ISIS are much better than allowing unfettered access to such an insane organization. Having measures in place to prevent such people from joining will ultimately help prevent radicals such as the subject of this article from joining up with the likes of ISIS (as they face apprehension and jail time), which also means that they are not going to be on our streets for a long, long time as they face lengthy prison terms.
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