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Old 03-23-2015, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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What? But you don't know what time she will be doing...
With all due respect, neither do you.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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With all due respect, neither do you.

If she is let off off with a slap on the wrist then be outraged.
Look at the laws. This is what has been stated already in the conversation.

Let's be clear, if it's deem murder then the argument against abortion just got a new case to support it's stance.

If it's not deem murder then an innocent child would have lost his/her life, and the punishment will likely not match.

There is a reason to be outraged regardless because either way, the laws don't make sense.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:22 AM
 
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With all due respect, neither do you.
Your reading material for the day

Attack on pregnant woman in Colorado complicated by abortion politics - CBS News
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"Under Colorado law, essentially no murder charges can be brought if the child did not live outside of the mother," said Stan Garnett, district attorney of liberal Boulder County."
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Again. You are exploiting this family and their unimaginable loss to further your own agenda.
Just stop.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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Again. You are exploiting this family and their unimaginable loss to further your own agenda.
Just stop.
I'm not sure how pointing out loopholes in the law that in effect make this baby's life worthless is 'furthering (one's) own agenda.'

can you explain?
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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No one has indicated this baby's life was worthless. No one knows why the perpetrator did what she did. If it turns out she is mentally ill can I assume you will be speaking out for more services for mental illness so this kind of thing doesn't happen more?
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:47 AM
 
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Again. You are exploiting this family and their unimaginable loss to further your own agenda.
Just stop.
Exploiting? I want them to get justice. If that's exploiting guilty as charged. I can empathize with them. That's my only agenda.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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No one has indicated this baby's life was worthless.
the law did and does. justtitans just posted the link for you.

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No one knows why the perpetrator did what she did. If it turns out she is mentally ill can I assume you will be speaking out for more services for mental illness so this kind of thing doesn't happen more?
not until you explain how pointing out loopholes in the law that fail to recognize this baby as an actual taken life equates to 'exploiting this family.'
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Exploiting? I want them to get justice. If that's exploiting guilty as charged. I can empathize with them. That's my only agenda.

They have not yet been denied justice.
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I don't know... is it just me or does it not seem as if the grievous bodily harm done to the unborn child's mother not in itself constitute a very serious crime (especially if she dies)?? What am I missing. I admit, I don't know the story but... what am I missing? An adult has been seriously, maybe fatally, harmed by another adult. Very clear IMO. Those who want to saddle the case with abortion politics are not seeing the forest for the trees.
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