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Old 03-25-2015, 01:52 AM
 
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And when Warren Buffet, who is against the current tax code and advocates for higher taxes on high wager earners, takes advantage of the tax loopholes in the current system, I say who cares? You can be against something for constitutional, etc., purposes, but still take advantage of legal benefits. It's not his fault that the Congress put itself under the exchanges, something that Mr. Cruz had not say/vote in.

Dude, not even close. Buffet went through the whole tax filing process and discovered it was unfair. Now, if Cruz had also used Obamacare for a period of time and discovered that the thing sucks and spoke up about it, that's one thing.

But he railed against it and then he still signed up for it. That'd be like Buffet saying, "The Oil Industry sucks!! It's bad and I urge you to avoid it like the plague!!" And then proceed to invest millions in XOM.

Basically what's he's saying is that Obamacare is bad but it's good enough for Ted Cruz's family.
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:33 AM
 
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Bit of satire=
President Signs Order Making Ted Cruz Ineligible for Obamacare - The New Yorker
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:50 AM
 
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If Mr. Cruz and Mrs. Clinton are all this country has to offer, we're in pretty bad shape for the next election.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:39 AM
 
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"Why are the MSM freaking out over this?"


uh... maybe bec he is a bleeping hypocrite.


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Ted Cruz going on Obamacare - CNN.com



Why are the MSM freaking out over this? Yes, Cruz is against this, but should he go without the cheapest option (when you count the lawmaker subsidies) available to him and his family under the law regardless? The freak out excitement by the left is almost akin to being shocked that people who are against the current tax code (and who have tried to get it repealed) are paying taxes/taking advantage of loopholes allowed under the law. For a similar reason, I'm not upset with Warren Buffet for taking advantage of tax loopholes, though he also calls for higher taxes on the wealthy.

Also, keep in mind that this shift is the result of his wife suspending her employment with Goldman Sachs (he had health insurance through her job previously) for the duration of his campaign, which I don't think will last very long.
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Old 03-27-2015, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Dude, not even close. Buffet went through the whole tax filing process and discovered it was unfair. Now, if Cruz had also used Obamacare for a period of time and discovered that the thing sucks and spoke up about it, that's one thing.

But he railed against it and then he still signed up for it. That'd be like Buffet saying, "The Oil Industry sucks!! It's bad and I urge you to avoid it like the plague!!" And then proceed to invest millions in XOM.

Basically what's he's saying is that Obamacare is bad but it's good enough for Ted Cruz's family.
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Cruz should leave his family uninsured to prove a point?
Buffett's company owes over a billion dollars in back taxes.
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Old 03-27-2015, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Cruz should leave his family uninsured to prove a point?
Buffett's company owes over a billion dollars in back taxes.

Maybe not but it would appear from the last speech I heard him make to his supporters that he was perfectly willing to leave other families uninsured by promising to repeal the ACA should he become President.
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Old 03-27-2015, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Maybe not but it would appear from the last speech I heard him make to his supporters that he was perfectly willing to leave other families uninsured by promising to repeal the ACA should he become President.
It's "repeal and replace."
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Cruz should leave his family uninsured to prove a point?
Buffett's company owes over a billion dollars in back taxes.
Geez, I can't believe even a right winger will defend a move like this........well then again I can.

Can't Cruz get an individual plan outside of Obamacare? Is he or a family member uninsurable?
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It is my understanding that the Cruz family has too high an income to qualify for subsidies under ACA. He is free to shop the ACA marketplace, use a private insurance broker (where plans meeting the ACA are sold) or use COBRA under his wife's health insurance. His choice.

Keep in mind the fact that if he or a family had a health condition they may not have been able to purchase any health insurance prior to ACA.

It is so easy for individuals in good health with substantial income to cry 'go let them eat cake' when it comes to health insurance.
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:09 PM
 
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And when Warren Buffet, who is against the current tax code and advocates for higher taxes on high wager earners, takes advantage of the tax loopholes in the current system, I say who cares? You can be against something for constitutional, etc., purposes, but still take advantage of legal benefits. It's not his fault that the Congress put itself under the exchanges, something that Mr. Cruz had not say/vote in.
Yes, this. I don't see the big deal. Lots of people are unhappy with something and want to change it but still do it. I pay all of my taxes and I hate it. Let's change that please. I have car insurance and I think it's the biggest rip off ever. I've got a list a mile long.
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