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Originally Posted by Enigma777 It is really too bad the cops went so far.
The guy was a total low-life thug who shot a puppy in front of the family and threatened to kill a deputy. The stupidity of this act is that when cops gang up on him and beat him, they make the thug a sympathetic figure (which he is far from being).
This lowlife thug shot a puppy, stole property, threatened to kill police, and led everyone on a two hour chase. I can't think of a more deserving person for a beating like this. Oh wait, I can, the Boston bomber, but that is a subject for another thread. I am not a law enforcement officer, nor am I related to one in any way, but I think those law enforcement officers did a great job here and deserve an award. As for the perp, he should not have been given medical treatment.
Yikes.
Americans get so horrified by corrupt/violent police and lack of a fair justice system in many countries, but people like this ^ poster above prove that Americans are not innately any more moral. Had this guy been born in certain other countries, I wouldn't be surprised if he was a member of/supported the religious police.
"A convicted felon, Pusok has a rap sheet that includes an arrest for shooting his girlfriend’s dog during a 2013 incident in which he also kicked out the window of a police cruiser, according to Victor Valley News."
"A convicted felon, Pusok has a rap sheet that includes an arrest for shooting his girlfriend’s dog during a 2013 incident in which he also kicked out the window of a police cruiser, according to Victor Valley News."
Real nice guy.
I don't think anyone else here says the perp is a nice guy. But it's not like he's a murderer, rapist or cop-killer neither.
Look, I understand why perps run ... they're avoiding arrest, have a warrant, parole violations, etc.
Cops deal with stuff daily.
What I don't understand is why these bad cops have to (over)react in such a heinous criminal manner?
What situations cause them to go bezerk?
And why do some people on here thinks it's perfectly ok for cops to react this way even when the perp gives himself up?
Not going to lie, if I was a police officer and I had to deal with people like this, day in and day out, over and over, I might develop a tendency to rage and go off on someone as well.
Its like saying its ok for teachers to slap kids around because the job is so stressful or for doctors to be nasty to patients because some are annoying.
Its like saying its ok for teachers to slap kids around because the job is so stressful or for doctors to be nasty to patients because some are annoying.
Internet=Serious Business.
The guy in the video by all measures seems to be a very good cop, very professional and was being quite patient with an absolute moron.
I do think that for any human being, there's a point where it just starts to completely grate on you, this can apply to any number of other professions but as a police officer, you're also far more likely to get shot or killed than in most others. A teacher or doctor doesn't have to worry about getting shot in the face just because some ******* doesn't feel like getting a speeding ticket.
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Officer Moynihan is a former U.S. Army Ranger who was honored at the White House for his heroism in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombing attacks. The "Top Cop" helped save a transit officer wounded in a gunbattle with the bombers.
Last month, he became a gunshot victim when he and other officers in unmarked cars, but with blue lights flashing, stopped the car West was driving.
When Moynihan opened the driver's side door, the video shows, West sprang out and fired a shot with a pistol at the officer's face.
I can see how stress levels would go through the roof so I do have an enormous appreciation for the good, professional cops out there, knowing that they have to regularly deal with snippy, mouth-breathers and still maintain their calm and composure.
There are somewhere between five to six hundred thousand police officers in the United States
This year there will be statistically somewhere between five to six thousand incidents of unnecessary use of force, criminal behavior, unprofessional conduct leading to some type of charge,,,
Of those incidents I would say there will probably be over one hundred that will be sensational... and where they will make national news and have more than the three day news cycle with legs... I am sure with the posters on city data we will see most if not all of them and a lot of LOOK.. SEE.. They are all bad crooked criminal cops... when the REALITY is that it is a very small abet sensational percentage... much lower than any other aspect of society
Every police officer today is held to a standard much higher than a normal citizen.. again abet what people with anti police agendas say.. I have spoken about these standards at length.. the problems attaining them.. and the problems enforcing them
In this instance if there was a field sergeant there then he absolutely failed his job one hundred percent
As a field sergeant any department out there has them in place as first line supervisors to stop exactly what appeared to occur in this case... pursuit justice,,, if that is what it was,,, we have very specific policies about use of force and as importantly CONTROLLING use of force.... when emotions are high.. it is the specific job of a line sergeant to have presence of mind and cool head and using policy driven command take charge of a scene...
That's how its supposed to work... Ill await the debrief and multiple investigations this incident will generate
Does this **** make me and every policeman I know of pissed.. absolutely.. because the heat that comes from it negatively changes policy and makes it harder incrementally every time this happens for us to do our jobs.Post Rodney King for me and my department was a salient moment and from then on it was contentious traffic stops with kids shoving cameras in our faces asking if we were going to beat mommie and daddy... use of force polices were completely revamped and supervision input became not only policy.. but something you could lose your job and freedom if you didn't exert. Departments looked more how to fire officers instantly... and internal investigations bureaus grew exponentially.. why.. reality.. public pressure.. better standard of accountability,, reduction of civil liability (always a driver of policy). If you are involved in use of force today and aren't squeaky clean it is going to be a bumpy road.. getting your own attorney.. maybe being bifurcated from the department who wants to drop you like a hot rock in any lawsuit if you do have culpability
On the other side... and as a social comment... we get injured and killed daily in the US.. and rarely anymore is there any outrage .... par for the job... but definitely sobering... we have posters on here calling for the execution of police.. fighting and resisting police.. and social agendas of everything that can and will tear our country apart...
Everyone has a personal responsibility to be the best citizen they can.. police have the solemn duty to uphold the law and be the best examples they can.. and living with a higher standard... when that is forgotten EVERYONE suffers.
Ultimately our country will get what it wants and deserves...
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Post Rodney King for me and my department was a salient moment and from then on it was contentious traffic stops with kids shoving cameras in our faces asking if we were going to beat mommie and daddy...
Do you have a problem with being recorded? Why would you unless you actually do intend to beat mommy and daddy? If you are an honest cop, being recorded shouldn't bother you one bit. Are you an honest cop?
Do you have a problem with being recorded? Why would you unless you actually do intend to beat mommy and daddy? If you are an honest cop, being recorded shouldn't bother you one bit. Are you an honest cop?
It's the principle of having to be recorded because someone else f*cked up.
Except... the public needs their police to be held to a higher standard... we have the power of life .. death.. and freedom...
And then you guys either abuse it or the blue line protects the abusers.
That is why criticism is directed your way.
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