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Old 05-08-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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I think it is being blown out of proportion. But then again people with desire for false outrage at something seems endless these days.

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Old 05-08-2015, 04:59 PM
 
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I think it is being blown out of proportion. But then again people with desire for false outrage at something seems endless these days.
Of course it's being blown out of proportion. They're just innocent White kids. Now if they were Black then there'd be some cause for concern.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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Now if they were Black then there'd be some cause for concern.
Hmm. Are there many Black kids that like to pose with a Confederate Flag?
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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Hmm. Are there many Black kids that like to pose with a Confederate Flag?
Doubt it, they probably know the meaning behind that flag.

However I noticed that whenever there's Blacks posing in photos with guns you and others alike are quick to label them.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Then lets be practical and quit with nonsense. They where all United States. The Southern States united too, against the Northern States. Want me to use your silly fact and say "The United States" fought against Northern Invaders?
Except that the Southern states were violating the Constitution they swore to uphold, whereas the Northern ones were protecting its sanctity. Of course, this wasn't confirmed by the Supreme Court until after the Civil War, but it's certainly settled now.

And this is all semantics anyway. All that matters is that the South was weak and the North was strong. The outcome was never in doubt from the first moment of hostilities, and history books are always written by the victors.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Except that the Southern states were violating the Constitution they swore to uphold, whereas the Northern ones were protecting its sanctity. Of course, this wasn't confirmed by the Supreme Court until after the Civil War, but it's certainly settled now.

And this is all semantics anyway. All that matters is that the South was weak and the North was strong. The outcome was never in doubt from the first moment of hostilities, and history books are always written by the victors.

The south was in no way weak. The north had over twice the population and all of the manufacturing plants which gave them the greatest advantage, and with all of that it took them over 4 years to win the war. If the south had the advantages the north had the war would not have lasted 2 years. More union soldiers lost their lives that confederate soldiers. Also, the north could replace the lost soldiers where the south could not. saying the south was weak is so ridiculous. Study the victories of the south in the battles. The first 2 years of the war the south was winning. Inevitably superior manpower and resources just had to win out.

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Old 05-08-2015, 05:53 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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Well not much of anything sailed under the flag of the CSA which is one of a dozen reasons why the south lost.
Actually, the Confederacy had approximately 300 vessels.
List of ships of the Confederate States Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:56 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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Northern aggression? How about we talk about southern succession.
You mean secession, not succession.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:58 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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I suppose if you define an American as an inhabitant of either the southern or northern continents and a patriot as being loyal to either part of it, but if you are referring to Americans, as in, citizens of the United States your statement is patently absurd. By definition, you cannot be a patriot of the United States if your objective is to disunite it!
The Southern states were not trying to disband the Union. After secession, the Union was still very much in existence, albeit not as large or as populous as it had been prior to secession.
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:03 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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The slave trade was outlawed in 1808 which effectively shut down northern participation in the north Atlantic slave trade.
But it did not result in the emancipation of northern slaves, it merely slowed the import of new slaves. Northern slaves remained in bondage.

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So it is a bit disingenuous to claim that slavery was universal aspect of the United States prior to the Civil War.
No it wasn't.
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