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You should see what happens to people with Tourettes, this is nothing compared.
My son has tourettes, we don't go out because other people can't tolerate people with disorders that disrupt them. You can't fly, eat out, go shopping without it being a hassle for others.
This mom might have made a mistake, forgot the food, it happens. She will pay a larger price than a mother of a normal kid because we as a society don't tolerate disruption well, we are so afraid of terrorists and criminals we freak out if someone looks or acts different than the norm. It signals danger, and reaction. Weird person, isle 5, get rid of them pronto!!
This is how I see this mom, worrying because she knows if her daughter does abnormal behavior someone might hog tie her or shoot her because of terrorists. So she begged the flight attendant, tried to let her know what could happen and why it was more urgent than just a brat needing food. You can't make mistakes if your child has a disease seems to be the answer here.
Yes, she should get use to driving and packing food. Schooling at home and hiding from the country because everyone is so afraid of abnormal behavior they will kick you out of life. I would never fly with my son, I would be afraid that his tics would get us kicked off or worse arrested, shot. Not worth it. We drive.
Believe me, we all wish our children came out "normal" and we aren't trying to irritate you by attempting to do normal things. I guess we should know better, we aren't normal, right?
Her biggest mistake, thinking someone else would understand. I try not to make that one.
Next time she should stick her in a wheel chair, society deals better with clear markers of people with a handicap. Look, wheel chair = abnormal safe person. It's ok Charles, they are handicapped, don't stare.
Or better yet, just stay off planes, out of schools, and eat in your car. Because no, the answer is no, people don't understand.
I am going to say that I think a lot of mothers these days, and fathers too, love to play the autistic card. Anymore, I'm starting to think it's an entitlement mentality and an excuse to let a child be a brat vs whooping their tail once in a while.
I once attended an autistic support group because it had been suggested ours might have it (they don't, it's been disproved since). I went in with an open mind to learn vs being judgmental. However, I heard many parents speaking almost with PRIDE about how their child had done this thing and the other, very disruptive things, and how everyone who was complaining were now stumbling all over themselves apologizing once the parent said "he/she is autistic." They were saying things like "if you don't have an autistic child, keep your opinion to yourself."
Well gee, I'm sorry, but if I'm a worker at a local discount store and your brat is tearing down the shelves, I think I have a right to say something, and I think it's incumbent upon you the parent to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, and NOW. I'm not obligated to tolerate something like that and just say nothing, not on your life.
And while I think society sometimes can be a bit intolerant of kids in certain ways, to the extent that people seem to get all righteous and snotty if you tell them their dog needs to be quieter but then they jump on board eagerly with respect to how loud children are (thus basically saying dogs have more of a "right" to be noisy than kids, which is silly), at the same time if you're talking about hard-core screeching and yelling, yes that can't keep going on. If you have to, cover their mouth with your hands, they can still breath through their nose. Whatever you do, don't just sit there and let them scream bloody murder at the top of their lungs and do NOTHING. That's irresponsible.
Why do you think she was begging the flight attendant for the food? I think she was freaking out ahead of time and trying to prevent that. She obviously didn't want her daughter to do this. Adults with Autism act like they're 5, and can't be stopped easily. That's why it's a disorder and not normal. They can't mature mentally, no matter how much you spank them. I bet she's spent thousands of dollars trying though.
You should see what happens to people with Tourettes, this is nothing compared.
My son has tourettes, we don't go out because other people can't tolerate people with disorders that disrupt them. You can't fly, eat out, go shopping without it being a hassle for others.
This mom might have made a mistake, forgot the food, it happens. She will pay a larger price than a mother of a normal kid because we as a society don't tolerate disruption well, we are so afraid of terrorists and criminals we freak out if someone looks or acts different than the norm. It signals danger, and reaction. Weird person, isle 5, get rid of them pronto!!
This is how I see this mom, worrying because she knows if her daughter does abnormal behavior someone might hog tie her or shoot her because of terrorists. So she begged the flight attendant, tried to let her know what could happen and why it was more urgent than just a brat needing food. You can't make mistakes if your child has a disease seems to be the answer here.
Yes, she should get use to driving and packing food. Schooling at home and hiding from the country because everyone is so afraid of abnormal behavior they will kick you out of life. I would never fly with my son, I would be afraid that his tics would get us kicked off or worse arrested, shot. Not worth it. We drive.
Believe me, we all wish our children came out "normal" and we aren't trying to irritate you by attempting to do normal things. I guess we should know better, we aren't normal, right?
Her biggest mistake, thinking someone else would understand. I try not to make that one.
Next time she should stick her in a wheel chair, society deals better with clear markers of people with a handicap. Look, wheel chair = abnormal safe person. It's ok Charles, they are handicapped, don't stare.
Or better yet, just stay off planes, out of schools, and eat in your car. Because no, the answer is no, people don't understand.
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Originally Posted by PoppySead
Why do you think she was begging the flight attendant for the food? I think she was freaking out ahead of time and trying to prevent that. She obviously didn't want her daughter to do this. Adults with Autism act like they're 5, and can't be stopped easily. That's why it's a disorder and not normal. They can't mature mentally, no matter how much you spank them. I bet she's spent thousands of dollars trying though.
She said her daughter Juliette became agitated because she was hungry during a layover in Houston.
I wonder why the mother would not feed her daughter hot food where it was easiest and she had a better selection available with it probably being able to be made as hot as her daughter wanted?
Why was the mother treating this person with a disability so poorly? Does she not understand the special needs this person has?
Also, and I like these:
"Juliette has flown since she was six months," Beegle said in a long account of the incident that she posted to Facebook. "She has been to five countries, 24 states and we have never experienced anything like this."
"Beegle called the incident "a sheer case of ignorance," adding: "Prejudice, ignorance and mistreatment are all too common toward people facing poverty," she added. "The parallels between special needs and poverty are striking in that both are causes for judgement, misunderstanding and mistreatment."
Yeah, because people facing poverty fly to other countries and Disney all the time. LOL
Why do you think she was begging the flight attendant for the food? I think she was freaking out ahead of time and trying to prevent that. She obviously didn't want her daughter to do this. Adults with Autism act like they're 5, and can't be stopped easily. That's why it's a disorder and not normal. They can't mature mentally, no matter how much you spank them. I bet she's spent thousands of dollars trying though.
Then why did she not feed her daughter when she was hungry in the Airport?
Mom should have planned better since she knows her daughter would be hungry and want hot food.
Bring it yourself on the plane and ask that it be warmed with the microwave or pay the extra and get a hot meal on the plane.
If she had planned better and not told the crew the child would "have a meltdown" they would have never escorted them off of the plane.
It is shameful to use your child to get your 15 minutes of fame.
Haha, in all seriousness though it would have been easy if the flight crew just got her food and overlooked it.
No. You give 1 person food in a typical plane stuffed to the gills with coach travelers who are already mad at airline for small seats, and the rest will want "their" food too. I completely understand why that flight crew didn't want to do it.
She said her daughter Juliette became agitated because she was hungry during a layover in Houston.
I wonder why the mother would not feed her daughter hot food where it was easiest and she had a better selection available with it probably being able to be made as hot as her daughter wanted?
Why was the mother treating this person with a disability so poorly? Does she not understand the special needs this person has?
Also, and I like these:
"Juliette has flown since she was six months," Beegle said in a long account of the incident that she posted to Facebook. "She has been to five countries, 24 states and we have never experienced anything like this."
"Beegle called the incident "a sheer case of ignorance," adding: "Prejudice, ignorance and mistreatment are all too common toward people facing poverty," she added. "The parallels between special needs and poverty are striking in that both are causes for judgement, misunderstanding and mistreatment."
Yeah, because people facing poverty fly to other countries and Disney all the time. LOL
Yes, she made a bad call, maybe she had her reasons, things happen. It's not like she didn't pay for it, the whole plane landed and removed them. I think she was stupid for flying in the first place, this was bound to happen at some point. Like I stated before, drive. People will not appease your differences.
I just don't think she planned this for fame....silly me.
Then why did she not feed her daughter when she was hungry in the Airport?
As I've stated, mistake number 1. Someone should ask her, I'd like to know. This is what sucks about these stories we debate about, you only get part of the story and have to fill in the rest yourselves. There is probably a real reason I assume, but maybe she was just setting up the lawsuit. Pre-planning.
I grab from my experience, which is parents of disabled kids make stupid mistakes as well. Sometimes you forget or can't do it all right. She got kicked off, and it's probably what she feared would happen, hence the begging.
I will be curious to see the outcome, I gather it won't be in her favor. People with these conditions get kicked out of a lot of places and it's usually not a win for them. The companies usually win these. She is probably just upset, and in the end she will just end up more upset when she loses. She should have driven but shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Yes, she made a bad call, maybe she had her reasons, things happen. It's not like she didn't pay for it, the whole plane landed and removed them. I think she was stupid for flying in the first place, this was bound to happen at some point. Like I stated before, drive. People will not appease your differences.
I just don't think she planned this for fame....silly me.
I do not think she planned this either but I think she wants to use it for her benefit.
I think she expected to just be handed everything she wanted. I think she had most probably been using her daughters disability as an excuse/reason to get special treatment for years and this time it backfired.
I hope United "Ban's" her (the mother) from all there flights.
Good luck being a public speaker, flying from city to city, When United is not available to you.
You lose the option to 1/3? of all the flights going to places?...
But then it might be good for us here in Atlanta as she is on Delta, (Until she pulls something on Delta and get on the Delta No/Fly list)
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Weird person, isle 5, get rid of them pronto!! 
Because no, the answer is no, people don't understand. 
