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Old 05-14-2015, 11:03 PM
 
Location: USA
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1. Your opinion would have to matter to me. It doesn't. I reply to you because your replies are funny.
2. In the post you quoted I was insulting thugs.
Ok fair enough. However, I was trying to have a discussion, not be funny. It's obvious you do not.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:07 PM
 
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Ok fair enough. However, I was trying to have a discussion, not be funny. It's obvious you do not.
I lost respect for you a long time ago. There are others in this form who have a very different view on this subject that i still respect. You have shown me that you are more interested in being right than being understood and understanding me. Why take you seriously at this point?
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:11 PM
 
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I lost respect for you a long time ago. There are others in this form who have a very different view on this subject that i still respect. You have shown me that you are more interested in being right than being understood and understanding me. Why take you seriously at this point?
It's more like others who agree with you. I don't need or want your respect. I'm ending this conversation. You should brush up on your forum skills.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:17 PM
 
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It's more like others who agree with you. I don't need or want your respect. I'm ending this conversation. You should brush up on your forum skills.
Me and Vector01 are very far apart on this issue but I still respect him. I disagree with him vehemently but i still respect him. I'm good on the forums. You are lost cause. I don't take lost causes seriously.
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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So this report is going to tell me that most black killers did not grow up in poverty, but in fact from a two parent middle class home? It's going to tell me that many people in prison, regardless of race, did not grow up in poverty stricken homes. Fascinating. I'm going to go read it and see.

Not only did your link not counter what I have said, neither addresses crime at all. But did you notell how high the black poverty rate is? Did you read your own links at all?
Ahhh, ok...both links provide information breaking down poverty rates by race.


copy pasted from one of the links:

Census figures reveal a stark contrast in the percentages of non-Hispanic whites living in poverty as compared to Hispanics and blacks. In 2012, 9.7% of non-Hispanic whites (18.9 million) were living in poverty, while over a quarter of Hispanics (13.6 million), and 27.2% of blacks (10.9 million) were living in poverty.

The figures are more dismal when looking at the rates for deep poverty. Compared to non-Hispanic whites, Hispanics are more than twice as likely to live in deep poverty, and blacks are almost three times more likely to live in deep poverty. In 2012, 12.7% of blacks (almost 5.1 million), 10.1% of Hispanics (almost 5.4 million), and 4.3% (8.4 million) of non-Hispanic whites were living in deep poverty.


It clearly counters what you have said. You stated poverty is the reason people kill. So if that was truly the case , we would be living in a war zone country wide, since there are so many people living in poverty across the nation. Poverty is not the reason for committing murder. Seems sort of clear to me...
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Old 05-15-2015, 07:18 AM
 
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And would that "betterment" be orchestrated? Specfically, give me an idea, just one.
Maybe rally together towards better family values ? Have a march against violence ? Who knows , but anything has to be better than nothing wouldn't it seem ?

I know this is like beating a dead horse but the whole "Black lives matter" thing. Wouldn't it make more sense if this was a slogan used for all forms of violence among blacks, not just when it involves a cop ?
The way a lot of the nation see's it is blacks lives only matter if it is a cop and or white person that is being violent towards a black person.

The past week in the D :

1 Dead, 2 In Critical Condition After Shooting On Detroit’s East Side « CBS Detroit

3 Suspects In Custody After Man Killed In ‘Gun Battle’ On Inkster Street « CBS Detroit

Gunman On The Loose After Deadly Triple Shooting In Detroit « CBS Detroit

Man Found Dead In Car With Multiple Gunshot Wounds « CBS Detroit


Thought black lives mattered ? Poverty is what is causing all this right ?
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:15 AM
 
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Deflection noted.
Keep side stepping.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:51 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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It's my opinion a well administered CCW permit process would reduce much of this thug violence, although it may raise the profit margins for surrounding mortuaries for a short time as the herd is thinned.
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