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Old 05-13-2015, 09:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ajonesaz View Post
Plenty of options:

- Adoption, she was on medicaid, not like she would pay for the birth anyways
- Morning after pill
- Keeping her legs shut
- Condoms, or other FREE birth control
- Or even worse case scenario, legal self funded abortion.
Don't forget the all-American favorite, the second and third input. Shocker.

Mick
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The pregnancy was terminated at 22 weeks, which was well within the legal 24 week limit in effect in Arizona at the time.

The current limit of viability is felt to be 24 weeks (which is why many states use that as the age limit for legal termination of pregnancy). Survival without major neurological deficits below that gestational age is rare - so uncommon that doctors usually do not attempt resuscitation at birth at that gestational age when a spontaneous miscarriage happens.

Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.acog.org/~/media/Departme...CAborStmnt.pdf

The issue in this case is financial fraud, not the legality of the abortion itself.

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I have seen premature babies who were born the same gestation as this "ladies" abortion and they are thriving children now.
Since survival at 22 weeks is very rare, it is unlikely that you know a single one, much less more than one, especially one that is thriving.

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Old 05-14-2015, 05:35 AM
 
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Medicare does not pay for Viagra or Cialis.

But this is a red herring frequently tossed into arguments by pro-abortion folks who are unhappy that our government doesn't fund elective abortions.
No, it's just I don't understand why people don't mind paying for someone to have an erection, but have a problem with paying for women's health. If you are funding the V.A you are paying for Viagra.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:36 AM
 
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Folks are going to do what they gotta do. Keep restricting access to abortion and the stories will get get better/worse/tragic.
If someone doesn't want to bring a fetus to term, they certainly aren't going to care for a child once it's to term.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:39 AM
 
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From 2006 through 2011, the investigators found, Medicare paid on average $451 per pump. Medicare beneficiaries were responsible for a $90 co-pay; Medicare put up the remaining $361. That was more than twice what the Department of Veterans Affairs paid per pump: $186. Searching online, the investigators found that consumers could buy similar pumps for even less.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:40 AM
 
Location: DFW
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No, it's just I don't understand why people don't mind paying for someone to have an erection, but have a problem with paying for women's health. If you are funding the V.A you are paying for Viagra.
That would be because many disabled Vets have problems in this area. If a guy was shot up in war, sometimes body functions don't work well even for a 30 year old man.

I have no problem helping a Disabled Vet have a family and a normal life.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:40 AM
 
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Yet, there is anger over a woman taking birth control pills. I don't get it.


Pentagon Spent $504,816 on Viagra Last Year | Washington Free Beacon
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:42 AM
 
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That would be because many disabled Vets have problems in this area. If a guy was shot up in war, sometimes body functions don't work well even for a 30 year old man.

I have no problem helping a Disabled Vet have a family and a normal life.
If you will provide erection pills for a man, then, people should have zero problem with funding birth control pills for women.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:43 AM
 
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Yet, there is anger over a woman taking birth control pills. I don't get it.


Pentagon Spent $504,816 on Viagra Last Year | Washington Free Beacon
BC pills should be free to anyone in school and women / wives in Military services.

Everyone else should be able to buy it very cheaply. Even at Walmart.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:56 AM
 
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