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They are no different than kids raised in hippie communes, well except they look a lot cleaner. The parents are cooperating, so I expect they will get their kids back.
For those who are complaining about no septic system, the family uses a composting toilet. The father purchases drinking/cooking water and hauls water from the lake for general washing. They go to a laundromat to wash their clothes, drying the heavy stuff and hanging the rest.
They do not live in a tent....they have a cabin, and are planning to build a large one. With the donations that are streaming in, they should be able to complete their plans in the future. The parents both have Iphones and can connect to the internet - and no one is isolated from general society's events.
The kids look happy and healthy. And living so close to nature has to be a wonderful experience for them. I would say that the parents are rather new to homesteading and are learning as they go along. What is so different from them and the earlier pioneers?
Consider the billions of gallons of fresh, drinkable water we Americans flush down our toilets every day. Yes. billions! Daily. Stop wagging your fingers at someone else for not.
I have mixed feelings about this case, but one thing we have to remember is that the media doesn't have access to all the information that the child protective agency reviewed, including interviews with the kids and maybe their grandparents.
Having said that, if the kids are happy, healthy and are attending school or home schooled in a competent manner (?), the agency should cut them a break and issue a warning. No heat, no running water and no septic concern me, though.
Mick
Meh, both my parent grew up with wood heat, drew water from a well and used an outhouse. Most folks in rural areas grew up that way in the early-mid 1900s. I still remember using that outhouse as a small child.
No internet, gaming system or smartphone, now that's child abuse. Those poor, poor deprived children.
For those who are complaining about no septic system, the family uses a composting toilet. The father purchases drinking/cooking water and hauls water from the lake for general washing. They go to a laundromat to wash their clothes, drying the heavy stuff and hanging the rest.
They do not live in a tent....they have a cabin, and are planning to build a large one. With the donations that are streaming in, they should be able to complete their plans in the future. The parents both have Iphones and can connect to the internet - and no one is isolated from general society's events.
The kids look happy and healthy. And living so close to nature has to be a wonderful experience for them. I would say that the parents are rather new to homesteading and are learning as they go along. What is so different from them and the earlier pioneers?
In a way I am glad these sorts of things (including the Meltiv case in Maryland) are happening and making the news, because it's causing people to look at issues of parental authority and any forces or organizations etc which threaten it, and rightly causing people to stop seeing CPS as this wonderful organization that saves children from evil and instead seeing it as an organization that interferes in family private matters and usurps legitimate parental authority.
I can tell you that I am very strong in my opinion that parental authority should be pretty much absolute. Obviously you can't sit idly by if a parent is on drugs, is keeping their kids from receiving an education, is starving them, beating them, letting a dirty uncle molest them, that sort of thing. Beyond that, though, parents should have the authority to parent their children however they feel without fear of any sort of response of this type. Those children are THEIR children to parent as they see fit. It's nobody's business to tell them how to parent their children, nobody's.
It appears these children are not receiving an education. At least one that will prepare them for the 21st century.
I don't know enough about the case to comment on whether or not they should be taken from their parents, but they most certainly were not being well-educated by a couple of Kentucky hillbillies with no access to educational materials. Unless a couple of them are outrageously brilliant and can find their way through the world on their own, these kids are pretty much doomed to a life of manual labor or a lifestyle very similar to their parents. Is it right for CPS to take these kids away in this case? I don't know.
Total neglect! Not one of those kids is even fat like a "normal" American kid.
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they're just a bunch of boho hippies raising their kids non-traditionally.
