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Old 05-23-2015, 05:51 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Keep deluding yourself. It is NOT a complex question. Here are some of the reasons:

Parents taught you to be racist and fearful of dark-skinned people.
Never had contact with people of different 'races'.
Been inundated with stories of how horrible different 'races' behave.
Ignore any positive reporting or exposure to decent, intelligent Blacks (doesn't fit your mind-set), or they are only viewed as anomalies (exceptions to the rule).

I believe that for most people the number one reason is the first: you were taught to hate.

For myself, my parents were very racist and tried to teach me to be the same. I grew up in a mixed neighborhood (working/poor class, NOT middle class), and for the life of me, I could not reconcile what my parents tried to teach me with my daily interactions with other races. Many of my friends were Black, especially in high school. They didn't seem any different to me. By the time I was about 10 or 11 years old, I concluded my parents were full of crap and rejected their reasoning. If I, as a child of 10, can see the fallacy of racist thinking, what is wrong with adults? Can they not think independently? Still believing what Mommy and Daddy taught?

I'm still waiting to hear of YOUR personal responsibility for the acts of White murderers, and what you are going to do about them.
I disagree.

Do you believe all Muslims are Radical Terrorist or just a small proportion? Do you see the beheadings and bombings on the news by all the extremist? How about Muslim on Muslim brutality?

Black violence is much like Muslim Extremism. We see it constantly and recognize it's a huge problem within the Muslim "Community" and that it highly affects people outside the Islamic faith. People outside the religion are affected daily by the violence within.

Are all Muslims terrorist.... No. Does the Extremism taint the way the world sees the religion... absolutely.

You and I were not raised to profile all Muslims as extremists. You and I were not raised to believe all Blacks are Violent. But the substantial groups who are extremely violent do cause the profiling of the rest of the group who are not extremely violent. Everyday we are fed a visual from the media of Muslim Violence and Black Violence.

I do agree that when 2% of the population (young black males under 25) commit 50-70% of the murders it is hard not to form an opinion (no matter your color) that there is a problem in that group and one must go out of their way to avoid that group in certain settings.

As a group...... blacks, browns, whites actually get along very well. It's the uneducated and extremist within any of these groups who create the problems. Most everyone recognizes that and does not blame "All".

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Old 05-23-2015, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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And the divide between whites and blacks gets wider every day ! What decent blacks do not realize is that acts of idiots like this guy DO carry over to them.

That poor family, especially the little boy, did nothing to deserve such a horrible end to their lives.

Hope that POS fries.

Don
Hey, remember that white guy who shot and then torched his ex-wife and her whole family with a homemade flamethrower on Christmas Eve while dressed in a Santa suit a few years back?

Covina massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No matter how horrible the crimes committed by black criminals, you can bet your last dollar crimes just as heinous have been committed by white criminals. That's just one example. So why do the actions of black criminals supposedly carry over to decent blacks but the actions of white criminals not carry over to decent whites?

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Old 05-23-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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And the divide between whites and blacks gets wider every day ! What decent blacks do not realize is that acts of idiots like this guy DO carry over to them.



Don
And why shouldn't lynching, etc etc carry over to "decent" white folks? Why should you not be carrying that yoke? I have read on CD many a time where white people say that was not them, that they did not personally do any lynching or raping.
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Old 05-23-2015, 09:48 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Per C-D's twisted logic, I guess this home invasion here carries over to ALL White people, right?

Cheshire, Connecticut, home invasion murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/ny...slay.html?_r=0
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Military City, USA.
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Clearly not enough guns. What the hell is the matter with this family that they weren't armed? They could have shot this guy and been poster children for the NRA 2015.

Sheesh, what are people thinking. Gotta have a gun.... Gotta have a gun...Gotta have a gun....
I have been reading comments on this site and on the news sites, and nobody has brought up my questions or the answers to them. I guess my questions will be answered as more information is gathered.

I want to know how this guy got around all the security in place for this community? And, if there were more than one perpetrator, how the others got in as well. Everything I have read said this community/compound of the very wealthy was secured in many ways, gated, cameras, security, extra police in the area. This just proves that if someone wants to get in, they can, for whatever reasons. Obviously the pizza delivery driver was able to get in.

The father was trained (expert?) in self defense. Why was he not able to take this guy down? I haven't read anything about a gun, so if no gun was used to prevent this, why didn't the father use his skill? Isn't this why law abiding folks take these classes, for protection?

I read in an above post that the father "gave this guy a chance". This was what I was hoping not to find out about. He evidently knew the perp had a record of some sort, but did not want to be "judgemental"? Racist? This is what being "a kinder, gentler person" brings about.

A church member made a comment in a meeting about another crime we were told about, and it annoys me to no end. "I cannot imagine anyone doing something like that". People are people, and color doesn't matter. Satan invades even Christians. We are not immune to sin. Anyone who has not worked in the Criminal Justice system does not realize what people are capable of. Nobody should be "innocent and ignorant" about what others can do. If it makes you uneasy, don't brush it off. Follow you gut instincts, and don't worry if it is not "PC". The life you save may be your own.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:07 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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I have been reading comments on this site and on the news sites, and nobody has brought up my questions or the answers to them. I guess my questions will be answered as more information is gathered.

I want to know how this guy got around all the security in place for this community? And, if there were more than one perpetrator, how the others got in as well. Everything I have read said this community/compound of the very wealthy was secured in many ways, gated, cameras, security, extra police in the area. This just proves that if someone wants to get in, they can, for whatever reasons. Obviously the pizza delivery driver was able to get in.
The appearance of a secure environment doesn't actually mean the place is secure, the White House fence jumper is a perfect example.

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The father was trained (expert?) in self defense. Why was he not able to take this guy down? I haven't read anything about a gun, so if no gun was used to prevent this, why didn't the father use his skill? Isn't this why law abiding folks take these classes, for protection?
The element of surprise coupled with complacency on the part of the target can have terrible results.

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Old 05-23-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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"OMG African-American aka Black aka Negro aka The ""N" word aka Colored thug killed a loving, innocent family of European aka white descent???? I am absolutely stunned,,,,,,,such a rarity in this United State of America that entities of the darker human species perpetuates such heinous acts!!!
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Military City, USA.
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The appearance of a secure environment doesn't actually mean the place is secure, the White House fence jumper is a perfect example.

I say this tongue in cheek. There is absolutely NO WAY to keep someone out 100% of the time. But I am always amazed that (it appears so far) nobody "saw anything" unusual, and if they did, why they did not report it. Again I believe it is because nobody want to feel, or have others think they are, "judgemental or racist or paranoid".



The element of surprise coupled with complacency on the part of the target can have terrible results.
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How do we know the victims were surprised? Did the accused knock on the door and was let in? Or did he somehow break in? I ask this sincerely because I don't think it has been answered yet. Regarding complacency on the part of the "target", victim in this case, I don't get why the father would be complacent if he was able to protect his family against one person without a gun with his self defense skills. He should have taken him down.

It is so easy to make judgement calls by what the media is feeding us. I am no different. I am trying to keep an open mind rather than form opinions on things I know nothing about yet. However, IMHO, this was not a race crime. It was a "I want what he has/they have" crime, and this type of crime knows no color, race or economic boundries.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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Once again one of Obama's wonderful sons kills a wonderful white family. Imagine the outrage if a white man in this day and age killed a whole black family. Blacks would go bonkers but that is how the media has conditioned them.
Once again, another MAN comes onto a website pretending to be a woman trolling online.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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Once again one of Obama's wonderful sons kills a wonderful white family. Imagine the outrage if a white man in this day and age killed a whole black family. Blacks would go bonkers but that is how the media has conditioned them.
I wager I can document more mass killings of whites against blacks than blacks against whites. Are you up for the challenge Blondie?
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