New York Has Essentially Eliminated Stop & Frisk--Crime Is Still DOWN

[Unsettomati]

In August 2013, the Stop-And-Frisk policy by NYPD - based on a very fast-and-loose concept of 'looks suspicious', and practically defining suspicion as 'not being white' - was ruled unconstitutonal by a federal judge. Stop-and-Frisk proponents insisted that rising crime would result.

So, how has 2014 played out? Well, lo and behold, crime is down in New York.

Murders? Down.
Rapes? Down.
Robberies? Down.
Burglaries? Down.
Assaults? Unchanged (actually, down very slightly, but not to a statistically significant degree)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/12/03/new-york-has-essentially-eliminated-stop-and-frisk-and-crime-is-still-down/

That's right. Stop-and-Frisk proponents were wrong. Demonstrably wrong.

So now the Stop-and-Frisk proponents can either let us know that they're pleased (which those whose motivation was crime reduction will be) or if they're disappointed (which those whose motivation was simply dredging up an excuse for the disproportionate police harassment of minorities will be).

[Lodestar]

After tonight that will no longer be true.

[gg]

Give it time.

[HappyRider]

I think YOU have some explaining to do. Crime went down with stop and frisk. Crime went down without stop and frisk.

[Malloric]

Now, if we had a graph showing the number of abortions in NYC during the '80s to 2000s.... not that correlation says anything about causation, but maybe if you manage the pool from which potential criminals spawn from managed. Creepily eugenic-ish, but as long as it's voluntary I'm for it.

[Utopian Slums]

I used to subscribe to the abortion/Freakonomics theory as well. It's still a good theory.

But when you dig a little deeper, you can see where Reagan cut funding to the mentally ill and others in need (yet funded a billion dollar failed war on drugs ) and you can see how the "lack of social service/public assistance funding" in early 80's correlates to higher crime rates.

Public assistance is also up right now in NY w the ACA, etc.

[Gantz]

1. There is a time lag between policy change and its effects on the population.

2. Crime still went down, but not by a huge percentage as previous years. Of course, NYC is still one of the safest cities in the country. Also, a lot of poor people are moving to the South since they can't afford to live in NYC anymore.

[ks5692]

Maybe crime went down because the lack of frisking means not finding drugs and weapons being carried...which are crimes not being recorded.

[goyguy]

Seems they've gone from "stop and frisk" to "stop and strangle."

[vision33r]

NYC Cops are too busy writing tickets instead of making arrests.