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Old 07-08-2015, 02:42 AM
 
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Hard to say, afterall he isn't a professional fighter who is by law required to have himself registered as an actual weapon.

As for the grabbing her--it's there in the video. He grabbed and pushed her back to prevent himself form being struck (she struck him anyway once she got the opportunity to). The witnesses simply testify that she elevated the matter with racial epithets. His story adds up.
And once again we only have his word(from what I have heard and I haven't heard anything about any witnesses testifying) that he grabbed and pushed her back to prevent himself from being struck. The video doesn't prove that she was going to strike him.

As for a professional fighter having to register themselves... well, yeah... ok. Lets see a law stating that. That's been a running joke for a long time.
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Old 07-08-2015, 02:49 AM
 
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And once again we only have his word(from what I have heard and I haven't heard anything about any witnesses testifying) that he grabbed and pushed her back to prevent himself from being struck. The video doesn't prove that she was going to strike him.

As for a professional fighter having to register themselves... well, yeah... ok. Lets see a law stating that. That's been a running joke for a long time.
The video shows that she appeared to be in a position which gave him reason to believe that he was going to be struck. The self-defense law will back that. You don't have to actually be punched to attempt to stop someone from punching you. That's the law--and it's also common sense.

There are no witnesses needed in that regard, the law will support his assertion as to why he grabbed her and pushed her back. It's in the video for everyone to see. The fact hat she broke loose and then followed through with the punch simply underscores what he stated.

His story adds up.
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Old 07-08-2015, 02:50 AM
 
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The video shows that she appeared to be in a position which gave him reason to believe that he was going to be struck. The self-defense law will back that. You don't have to actually be punched to attempt to stop someone from punching you. That's the law--and it's also common sense.

There are no witnesses needed in that regard, the law will support his assertion as to why he grabbed her and pushed her back. It's in the video for everyone to see. The fact hat she broke loose and then followed through with the punch simply underscores what he stated.

His story adds up.
Unless he was threatening her and that was why she positioning herself.
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Old 07-08-2015, 02:52 AM
 
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The issue is whether his use of force was reasonable under the circumstances, even in self-defense, and I say that it wasn't. That punch she threw looked more like a push. She couldn't hurt him and posed no threat to him whatsoever. His response was excessive IMO.

Some witnesses said she used racist slurs too. Possibly an ignorant, racist young woman. Her response to him was excessive, but I don't think she deserved to be clocked like that.
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Old 07-08-2015, 02:55 AM
 
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Unless he was threatening her and that was why she positioning herself.
very possible. But she has yet to say anything like that. He on the other hand stated that he grabbed her to stop her from hitting him
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Old 07-08-2015, 02:56 AM
 
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very possible. But she has yet to say anything like that. He on the other hand stated that he grabbed her to stop her from hitting him
So once again its a he said/she said thing.
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Old 07-08-2015, 02:57 AM
 
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So once again its a he said/she said thing.
Not really, she didn't say anything and his story adds up with the video.
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Old 07-08-2015, 02:59 AM
 
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Not really, she didn't say anything and his story adds up with the video.
His story adds up if you believe him. Its only his word.
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Old 07-08-2015, 03:11 AM
 
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His story adds up if you believe him. Its only his word.
plus the video and witnesses saying that she used epithets.
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Old 07-08-2015, 03:14 AM
 
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plus the video and witnesses saying that she used epithets.
The video only proves something if there is evidence that she was threatening him. I have asked three times now where these witnesses state that she threatened him. You have not shown any evidence of them.

Even if there are witnesses backing up what you are claiming and she merely used epithet, that is not a reason for self defense.

Where are these witnesses statements?
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