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Old 07-07-2015, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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he's guilty....of somethin'

someone better go fetch the rope
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Old 07-07-2015, 08:07 PM
 
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Folks,

If the FBI comes to one's house and confiscates one's personal computer, files, data, etc., I'll guarantee there was some MAJOR stuff going on.

It's well beyond a "finger pointing" thing or even low hanging fruit.

They're collecting evidence and building a case.
His foundation CEO got busted 3 months ago.....if Jared was into this he should have taken the 90 day notice to replace all his computers/devices!

The CEO attempted suicide and failed......now in custody!
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Old 07-07-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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Labonte18: "
<<"I will say.. Since he was not arrested.. That means they found nothing on scene." >>

Isn't it true that if Jared deleted offensive things that he was sent on his computer, that there is still a "footprint" of that on the hard drive? When you say he was not arrested (*so everything must be okay..) what if that is the reason they took the computer, to dive DEEP into the computer to find things he possibly deleted?
Means exactly what I said.. They found nothing on scene. The scouring back at the FBI lab will dig deeper.. But, only so much. They're not going to invest the same time and money on this that they might a terrorism investigation, I wouldn't think. And recovering shredded files requires ALOT of time and money. I'm not talking the simple "Hit delete and empty recycle bin".. We're talking overwriting the file with random data 35 times.. "Gutmann Method". Had they found a folder on the desktop with gigs of child porn, he'd have been immediately arrested. So, we know that didn't happen.

Then we could get into the whole encryption thing.. It could take weeks or longer to break encryption, and there's some they cannot break. There's cases where people have actually been arrested for contempt for not giving their passwords over because LE couldn't break their encryption. In general, nowadays.. This is weird, but true.. Most courts agree that the 5th amendment protects you from having to give authorities your passwords.. HOWEVER.. Biometrics, such as a fingerprint, are not protected. So, if you lock your iPhone with a fingerprint, you can be compelled to unlock it.. But if you use a password, you cannot be compelled to give that. Ah, America, you're a strange old bird, aren't you?

Here's the thing.. If this is a situation where his former charity director fingered him.. And it is a false accusation.. The FBI will come back with a "We have an obligation to investigate.." line.. But, people are already seeing that the damage is done. So, they would have a tough road with that, because what evidence the guy gave them will come out, and if it's at all sketchy ("he said..." type thing) then they will, probably rightfully so, be heavily criticized. Which will probably affect future investigations. They went in too publicly with this, I think. Typical of police in this day and age. Possibly the smarter thing to do.. Send in 4 agents, all in a plain car.. 2 monitor the perimeter of the house, 2 knock and serve warrant.. It's kept quiet.. If it's all bullcrap, noone knows. If it's not, then you have your big press conference. What was served by having so many people at that search, other than publicity? This was done with so many people, at least partially, knowing that it'd hit the news wire.

It's a real problem with a situation like this.. On one hand, you can agree with them that the investigation needs to happen, but if the evidence is at all sketchy, knowing that it will destroy a life.. Where does that balance lie? It's simple to say "Whatever is necessary when children are at risk".. But.. The accused is at risk as well.. And, if it is a 'simple' possession case.. There's arguments to be made here.

I hold to the innocent until proven guilty.. So, right now, I think of him as innocent. Does it all make me raise an eyebrow? Yep.. Could that opinion change? Yep.

One note.. We're all assuming that this is a child porn investigation.. It's also possible that whatever the director's name was fingered him as a drug kingpin or something.. after all, they had dogs there.. Seems to me that dogs can't necessarily sniff out data. Perhaps looking for hidden compartments or something? But.. In general, you think dogs, you think drugs. The feds have said nothing.. The child porn has been assumed by everyone.. Though, I do think local police said something about it.
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Old 07-07-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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So strange to see so much support for him and so many hoping he did nothing wrong. I don't fully understand it
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Old 07-07-2015, 11:31 PM
 
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So strange to see so much support for him and so many hoping he did nothing wrong. I don't fully understand it
Must have a lot of Catholic priests/Boy Scout leaders in the board tonight!
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Old 07-07-2015, 11:35 PM
 
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So strange to see so much support for him and so many hoping he did nothing wrong. I don't fully understand it
Or people just don't automatically think that a search of a house, or even an arrest means someone is automatically guilty.
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:05 AM
 
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They have to analyze everything first before an arrest is made but they are calling him a suspect. Now the foundation was ran out of his home supposedly; So they have to do their due diligence. Jmo.

But since postal inspectors were there as well; Then he mailed or received something of illegality worth. I think they may have taped conversations with him and Taylor as well. Jmo.
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:16 AM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo, where the woodbine twineth
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Must have a lot of Catholic priests/Boy Scout leaders in the board tonight!
In Fogle's case, rabbis.
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:21 AM
 
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Or people just don't automatically think that a search of a house, or even an arrest means someone is automatically guilty.
It just means they have enough to jack your whole life up whether guilty or not. But the postal inspectors were not there for stamp fraud. He probably was caught sending and receiving evidence via usps as well. Jmo
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:25 AM
 
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It just means they have enough to jack your whole life up whether guilty or not. But the postal inspectors were not there for stamp fraud. He probably was caught sending and receiving evidence via usps as well. Jmo
Im not defending him but just because you receive a package does not mean you are guilty of something.
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