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Old 07-14-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Saint Louis (Clayton)
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Respectfully, your missing something. Its not just pulling down the battle flag on government establishments that getting folks worked up. Its the expansion into private and individual areas. Like that video that went viral, of that clown scraping the flag off the back of the semi, wildly cheered vandalism of private property. Anyone who dares haul up , so called, controversial symbols, is now a target for mob justice.

This is going WAY beyond striking symbols from government property. Its encouraging people to attack anyone , anywhere, who dares display a battle flag, or other Confederate symbol, regardless of their reason for doing so. It won't be surprising , to soon be bearing about people marching onto someone's property and destroying things, because the owner has a flag flying. The potential for some serious incidents is more than ripe, here.

That truck driver could just as easily caught that guy messing up his rig, and took a tire tool to him. Justifiably, from many peoples take. Walking onto someone's land, with such intent in mind, could easily end up in lethal force coming into play. Points to ponder. Just sayin'....
I agree in some aspect but that's because many don't know the history of the flag and sadly revel in delusion in some pride about a lineage of rebels who didn't care about slavery, dehumanization or cotton-picking , they believe their ancestors just wanted freedom from a tyrannical government which isn't true (it was completely about slavery and profit).

Is it time for the Confederate flag to be as taboo as the Nazi swastika? No doubt in my mind, that certain people would rip down a swastika flag if they saw it waving in front of a home or scratch a swatiska sticker off a parked car (that doesn't mean its right). Policy to have the flag removed doesn't innately mean that destruction of private property with those historically hate-filled symbols is supported.


But the growing (not recent) backlash against the Confederate flag does suggest that, a century and a half later, Americans are finally accepting what Whoopi Goldberg and many others believe it has represented all along: not heritage, nor pride, nor a badge of Southern identity, but a regime of white supremacists who went to war against the Union to preserve the inhuman institution of slavery.

That's a legacy and ideology that does not deserve to be honored by government institutions in the 21st century.

According to newsweek, In Germany, the censorship of Nazi symbols is still a matter of debate -- it can be worn on private property. Far-right and even neo-Nazi groups exist and organize in the country, but raising the Nazi swastika is a red line that no one can cross and is illegal.
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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Channel 4 in the UK broadcast a documentary last night about the resurgence of the Klu Klux Klan in the USA. Not sure if it will be broadcast here.

Ku Klux Klan boasts rising numbers as racial tensions soar | The Week UK
Doesn't surprise me at all. This confederate flag thing has gotten all the trashy rednecks up in arms and their racist colors are showing brightly.
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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It's between 5000 to 8000 in a country of 320 million...big deal.
But that not sensationalistic
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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The Klan is wrong and has been on the wrong side of history. With that said, a lot of otherwise reasonable people feel that too much change is coming too fast, and that this change is being forced on society from the federal government and elites on down. The media have always been biased against Southerners. It is no surprise to see a knee-jerk reaction and a few running to the clean.

If society was more reasonable, the Klan would be continuing to decline.
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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KKK? That's still a "thing"?

The UK should worry more about Pakistani child rapist cults operating within their country and leave the irrelevant fringe groups in the states to us.

There's been more black on white violence in the past 5 years than in the past 25 years of the KKK.
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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Some of you probably would cross reference this thread to the "the MODERN positives about the South" thread elsewhere on this forum.

Mick
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:32 PM
 
Location: USA
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Why would anyone join the KKK when there are hate groups with far cooler costumes.
Furries?
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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average black US citizen has much more to fear/lose from a run-in with a cop than a kkk member. That will disappoint many of the baiters, but it's true.

I've joked around w/card carrying kkk AND black dudes and we all had good times. The conversation eventually gets around to forced desegregation, and we ALL were against it.

Average kkk member and working poor blacks probably have much more in common than either would like to admit. If only they could each see who their true enemies are...
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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average black US citizen has much more to fear/lose from a run-in with a cop than a kkk member. That will disappoint many of the baiters, but it's true.

I've joked around w/card carrying kkk AND black dudes and we all had good times. The conversation eventually gets around to forced desegregation, and we ALL were against it.

Average kkk member and working poor blacks probably have much more in common than either would like to admit. If only they could each see who their true enemies are...
They get cards?

Who are the TRUE enemies of blacks and KKK members that you hang around with?

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Old 07-14-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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Huh? So all the corporations who pulled the confederate flag from their inventories were progressive? A symbol of racism is bad for business don't you know. It's simple, don't put an 'ism' where it doesn't belong. Most corporations are run in ways to appeal to the most people for maximum profits. Aside from Chick fil-A, the last thing they want is to be perceived as right-wing and intolerant of certain groups.
I don't know...it worked out quite well for Chic- fil- a. I suddenly have a hankering for a chicken sandwich.
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