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Old 07-28-2015, 11:59 PM
 
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No, I didn't attempt because it's purely your own (false) opinion based on your pre-held beliefs. You're saying you're right, simply because you're right. The Harvard study wasn't the only study confirming this, by the way. Maybe you should research more before claiming to be right. I'm not sure why you feel people should believe you over multiple formal studies anyway.

Less births out of wedlock/unwanted children = less crime committed by troubled youth

See also: cognitive dissonance.
How can you confirm something so speculative? Do share. Both you and Harvard researchers falsely believe there is a correlation between abortions and fertility rates. And it is very weak, if any. Women being very rational creatures can control procreation really well with abortions or without providing a threat to the desired life they imagined for themselves. An "accident" in the abortionless environment would mean tenfolded vigelance with complete abstinence at the extreme (a bullet proof family planning secret a granny shared with me: keep him out of your bed, she meant a husband ). That study is pure speculation and rising crime rates in the abortion happy environment prove it to be wrong.

Is a new crime wave on the horizon? - CNN.com
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:14 AM
 
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You don't know much about animals, do you? I've known plenty of mares who were judged to be in foal by a vet, and then reabsorbed their foal.

And I can tell you for a fact, that when my pet mouse felt threatened by a wild mouse right after she gave birth, she killed and ate her babies.

And it's already been proven that animals who are in crowded conditions have fewer and smaller litters and sometimes quit having litters altogether. Coyotes, when they're being trapped, tend to have larger litters.

And in human evolution, the more threatened a population was, the younger they started having babies.
those are some unrelated to abortion observations on captive animals to boot. Animal mothers dont abort they miscarry, they abandon litters if they cant raise them. How do biological changes of fertility rates in response to the environmental factors relate to conscious abortions humans practice under the most favorable for survival conditions?
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Old 07-29-2015, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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My girlfriend said I should snap a photo of her while she's wearing her T-shirt. It reads, "I support stem-cell research, but only as a by-product of my support for killing babies."



We'll get that done later today.
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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^^ She's brave enough to wear that here in TX? Hat's off to her.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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those are some unrelated to abortion observations on captive animals to boot. Animal mothers dont abort they miscarry, they abandon litters if they cant raise them. How do biological changes of fertility rates in response to the environmental factors relate to conscious abortions humans practice under the most favorable for survival conditions?
I'm pretty sure that many wild animals will kill their newborn young if they think they're in danger.

And what about males? The first thing the male lion will do after taking over a pride is kill all the cubs from the previous male.
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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^^ She's brave enough to wear that here in TX? Hat's off to her.
Well we didn't get around to having her wear it but I went and got it and draped it over my office chair. I also found another funny one that I snapped.
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Old 07-31-2015, 10:46 AM
 
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In all my years of professional counselling, I have yet to counsel a patient who does not regret having had an abortion - or two, or more.
Why would someone who didn't have any regrets seek counselling?
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Old 07-31-2015, 11:18 AM
 
Location: State of Grace
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Why would someone who didn't have any regrets seek counselling?
Abortion is not an issue I generally address unless it comes up during the course of other therapy, so most women, couples, or families who book time with me do so for other reasons, including general health.

Shalom,


Mahrie.
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Old 07-31-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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Abortion is not an issue I generally address unless it comes up during the course of other therapy, so most women, couples, or families who book time with me do so for other reasons, including general health.

Shalom,


Mahrie.
Uh huh, and they are already troubled people. You know... seeking counseling. Something that could also be taken into consideration is societal expectations. Women may be pressured to "regret" their abortions even if they really don't... so every case may not be fully truthful.

Too many factors really, but for you to believe that every one you've spoken with actually truly regrets their abortion is pretty far fetched considering the statistics to the contrary!
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Old 07-31-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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Why would someone who didn't have any regrets seek counselling?
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Abortion is not an issue I generally address unless it comes up during the course of other therapy, so most women, couples, or families who book time with me do so for other reasons, including general health.

Shalom,


Mahrie.
Unless you're asking them particularly about abortions, you have no idea whether they've had one or not. In other words, if they come to you for couple's therapy, or to deal with other issues in their lives, and abortion never comes up, you have no idea if they regret it or not. It's possible that half the women you talk to have had an abortion they don't regret but you wouldn't know that.
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