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Nobody suggested arming first graders, but the principal and some teachers could've been armed. Many schools in USA started doing it nowadays, and as a parent whose children go to school, I completely support it.
Yes, lets have armed untrained school principals and teachers, then we can have more incidents like this.
That was the same argument for arming airline pilots after 911. Until they started accidentally shooting holes in their planes.
Arming the pilots was dumb in the first place. In an emergency, pilots need to be flying the plane. If anything, one or more of the flight attendants should have been trained and had access to a firearm.
Zen88
I saw your early on post here & didn't read all of the intervening comments between then & now here.
I did, however, read a news item earlier today that touched on your claim that Bill Clinton started the disarmament of military bases 20 years ago.
The news article I read noted that the law to restrict weaponry on military bases was actually passed & signed during the George H. W. Bush administration but did not take effect until Clinton had come into office on the heels of Bush.
Perhaps, Zenn88 you have seen that news item fact since your initial post here & corrected yourself in which case good for you. If not, now you know "the rest of the story."
If in doubt, see the author's note at the head of the article linked below from Fox News.
Yeah, it's a real mystery. Only one country has everyone walking around with loaded guns, and yet that same country is the only one with tons of gun related murders. Gee, I wonder if there's a connection...
Naah, that's commie pinko talk. Guns keep people safe! That's why Europe and Canada and Australia, with tougher gun rules, have like 5% of the gun related crime of the U.S., despite having similar overall crime rates. We gotta keep our Freedumb in the US of A. Uh, right??
Where there are more guns there will be more gun crimes. Where there is more water there will be more drownings. Where there are more cars there will be more car accidents.
And those other places you mentioned... Canada, Europe and Australia...
They don't have an ultra violent segment of society like we do. They don't have hundreds of thousands of gang members from the Crips, Bloods, MS-13 and dozens of other gangs walking their streets.
They don't have a thug culture that glorifies violence and stupidity.
They don't have millions of inner city blacks who live in a "No Snitch" culture and who revile cops.
They don't have a hyper violent Mexican cartel war seeping into their country.
The problem isn't guns. The problem is the massive criminal element in our midst... the same criminal element that subliterate Progressives like you constantly coddle and cultivate under the completely phony banner of 'social justice' and victimhood. You can tell Progressives like the poor and the "oppressed" because they create so many of them.
Following extensive research into the previous 62 mass shootings there is ZERO evidence that the perpetrator selected their target based on the fact that a location was or wasn't a "gun free zone". The idea that gun free zones encourage mass shootings and violence is nothing more than a construct of conservative media.
Going further on that point, there has NEVER been a case of a mass shooting being stopped (or even an attempt at intervention) by a citizen carrying a firearm. The "good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun" is essentially a myth.
Also, for the record, Clinton did not sign an order "disarming the military". A DoD directive was issued in 1992 under George HW Bush clarifying and codifying the EXISTING policies of the various branches. Essentially, military members are not allowed to carry PERSONAL firearms on bases/facilities and official weapons are only issued to those who need them for their job such as base security, military police, etc. Virtually every actual military installation has armed security present.
Nine potential mass shootings stopped by armed citizens:
Yep, only guns kill people. Bombs and explosives obviously aren't known to any terrorists. And total ban obviously would stop career criminals from getting whatever guns they need (if you believe this, look how it works in other countries - Britain, Australia).
It works great in Australia. A hand gun cost upward of $15,000 usd (not a typo) and as a result most criminals cannot afford to have guns.
So yes, actually a ban did stopped many career criminals from getting any guns they need.
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I am assuming that post is a joke. Otherwise I'm sure you won't mind if someone robs your house, steals your car, kidnaps your children and sell them as sex slaves, beats your grandparents in a game of "knockout" and then uses a knife to slit your throat just for fun when you have nothing else they want.
Oh yes, it's ghods will.
Rubbish.
The only way to stop barbarians is to exterminate them!
Damn, your neck of the wood is third world! I suggest you move to a safer neighborhood.
I got news for you, your gun ain't going to do jack against a gang of thugs lying in wait. You'll be dead before you knew what hit ya.
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Originally Posted by jamies
The only way to stop barbarians is to exterminate them!
Fine. Just do it the old fashion way with knifes and fists.
Where there are more guns there will be more gun crimes. Where there is more water there will be more drownings. Where there are more cars there will be more car accidents.
And those other places you mentioned... Canada, Europe and Australia...
They don't have an ultra violent segment of society like we do. They don't have hundreds of thousands of gang members from the Crips, Bloods, MS-13 and dozens of other gangs walking their streets.
They don't have a thug culture that glorifies violence and stupidity.
They don't have millions of inner city blacks who live in a "No Snitch" culture and who revile cops.
They don't have a hyper violent Mexican cartel war seeping into their country.
The problem isn't guns. The problem is the massive criminal element in our midst... the same criminal element that subliterate Progressives like you constantly coddle and cultivate under the completely phony banner of 'social justice' and victimhood. You can tell Progressives like the poor and the "oppressed" because they create so many of them.
Guns aren't the problem... YOU are the problem.
Well gee whiz that was easy....blacks, Mexicans and gangs along with him are the problem.......er...what about those white retards shooting up schools, movie theaters and churches, killing multiples each time they do......those are what you call a statistical anomaly and therefore, don't count?
"Ultra violent society" my rosy read azz. Give anybody that is marginally in control of their freak'n temper or sanity, easy access to a gun and you get What YOU'VE got; a firearm death rate resembling that of a third rate country.
Cripes, it ain't rocket science.
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