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Old 02-01-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Chickebs coming home to roost. MCain gave Sarah Palin and her brand of political nonsense its start. Now it's come back to bite him.
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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I don't care how rich and successful Trump is at business. That's apples and oranges. Being the boss at a business doesn't mean he'll make a great president. Trump is used to getting his own way. He doesn't ask. He dictates. That should concern every American just a little bit. Trump hasn't proven himself in government. Zero experience.
On the other hand, I'd vote him over Cruz.
In business, a dictator is accountable for his dictates.
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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Chickebs coming home to roost. MCain gave Sarah Palin and her brand of political nonsense its start. Now it's come back to bite him.
He didn't do it, his handlers/the RNC did it. McCain didn't want her either IMO, he was talked into it.
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Old 02-01-2016, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Excuse me, have you ever looked into how Trump got where he is? As far as I'm given to understand he wasn't HANDED a billion dollar business and according to reports I've seen the business his dad started was a small scale business until Donald decided/convinced his dad to make it bigger and expand out of the small area in downtown NYC.

So, he became "the boss" by growing the company, in essence working his way up.
A lot of people contest the idea that he is a good businessman. His dad gave him $40 million in the 1970s, which was a pretty good start for anyone. There are also the four bankruptcies.
Trump Worth $10 Billion Less Than If He’d Simply Invested in Index Funds | Money Talks News
He sure can talk himself up, though.
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Old 02-01-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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He was left 30,000 Manhattan apartments by his father.


"He received $40-$200 million when his father died"


Here's more: Exposing How Donald Trump Really Made His Fortune: Inheritance from Dad and the Government's Protection Mostly Did the Trick | Alternet


Come down to Atlantic County and let's together count all the small businesses he put under by declaring multiple bankruptcies on his AC casinos and defaulting on his payments to electricians and contractors and other regular people.
What you fail to mention is that he worked with his father to build that Manhattan business and pushed to grow it outside of Manhattan where his dad wanted to stay.
As for going Bankrupt and such, so, it's bad for Trump to do it but just fine for Obama to allow GM to do the same thing to a much higher degree?
It's ok for Obama to allow banks to DO THE SAME THING only for way more $$$$ lost? Here's the deal, bankruptcy laws, let me restate it BANKRUPTCY LAWS allow businesses to do just what Trump did. Not only Trump but hundreds/thousands of other companies over the years that have done EXACTLY what Trump did and probably much worse if you want to be honest about the attacks.

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Originally Posted by Javacoffee View Post
I don't care how rich and successful Trump is at business. That's apples and oranges. Being the boss at a business doesn't mean he'll make a great president. Trump is used to getting his own way. He doesn't ask. He dictates. That should concern every American just a little bit. Trump hasn't proven himself in government. Zero experience.
On the other hand, I'd vote him over Cruz.
Doesn't that remind you of anyone currently in office? At least Trump has some idea on how to run a budget and MAKE MONEY.
Instead of just spending it like drunken sailors as our last few leaders have.

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A lot of people contest the idea that he is a good businessman. His dad gave him $40 million in the 1970s, which was a pretty good start for anyone. There are also the four bankruptcies.
Trump Worth $10 Billion Less Than If He’d Simply Invested in Index Funds | Money Talks News
He sure can talk himself up, though.
See above...
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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What you fail to mention is that he worked with his father to build that Manhattan business and pushed to grow it outside of Manhattan where his dad wanted to stay.
As for going Bankrupt and such, so, it's bad for Trump to do it but just fine for Obama to allow GM to do the same thing to a much higher degree?
It's ok for Obama to allow banks to DO THE SAME THING only for way more $$$$ lost? Here's the deal, bankruptcy laws, let me restate it BANKRUPTCY LAWS allow businesses to do just what Trump did. Not only Trump but hundreds/thousands of other companies over the years that have done EXACTLY what Trump did and probably much worse if you want to be honest about the attacks.


Doesn't that remind you of anyone currently in office? At least Trump has some idea on how to run a budget and MAKE MONEY.
Instead of just spending it like drunken sailors as our last few leaders have.


See above...
That's actually backwards.
It was The Donald who pushed his father into Manhattan. Fred was content to stay in the boroughs (Queens and Brooklyn).


How a Young Donald Trump Forced His Way From Avenue Z to Manhattan | Village Voice

THE EXPANDING EMPIRE OF DONALD TRUMP - NYTimes.com

Want to roll those eyes?
Here's a great little anecdote from many, many years ago:

"According to Donald, the turning point in his life came when he was 18 years old. He recalled standing in the rain, watching politicians give speech after speech at the opening ceremonies for the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge while the bridge’s engineer stood to the side, ignored. Trump told The New York Times in 1980: “I realized then and there that if you let people treat you how they want, you’ll be made a fool.” He told the reporter it was something he never forgot. “I don’t want to be made anybody’s sucker,” he said.

And yet the engineer, Othmar Ammann, was praised that day. In fact, after the opening music it was one of Robert Moses' first order of business.

"My friends, I ask that you now look upon the greatest living bridge engineer, perhaps the greatest of all time," Moses said.

And, according to Gay Talese, who covered the opening for the Times, there was no rain: "The sun shone, the sky was cloudless.""

Seems things haven't changed much, have they?

The One Thing Donald Trump Didn
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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In business, a dictator is accountable for his dictates.


Real Americas don't like dictators, be they accountable or be they not.
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Old 02-01-2016, 03:15 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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That's actually backwards.
It was The Donald who pushed his father into Manhattan. Fred was content to stay in the boroughs (Queens and Brooklyn).


How a Young Donald Trump Forced His Way From Avenue Z to Manhattan | Village Voice

THE EXPANDING EMPIRE OF DONALD TRUMP - NYTimes.com

Want to roll those eyes?
Here's a great little anecdote from many, many years ago:

"According to Donald, the turning point in his life came when he was 18 years old. He recalled standing in the rain, watching politicians give speech after speech at the opening ceremonies for the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge while the bridge’s engineer stood to the side, ignored. Trump told The New York Times in 1980: “I realized then and there that if you let people treat you how they want, you’ll be made a fool.” He told the reporter it was something he never forgot. “I don’t want to be made anybody’s sucker,” he said.

And yet the engineer, Othmar Ammann, was praised that day. In fact, after the opening music it was one of Robert Moses' first order of business.

"My friends, I ask that you now look upon the greatest living bridge engineer, perhaps the greatest of all time," Moses said.

And, according to Gay Talese, who covered the opening for the Times, there was no rain: "The sun shone, the sky was cloudless.""

Seems things haven't changed much, have they?

The One Thing Donald Trump Didn
So I was incorrect in which way HE expanded his fathers business, so what? As for the "articles", no bias in any of those is there? Nawwww, not at all <SARCASM> (just in case you missed it )
Hmmmm?
Look, I'm not in aw of Trump, I do not think he's gods gift to the White House but I DO give him credit for getting where he is and realize there could be worse people running for the top job.
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