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Old 08-06-2015, 04:38 PM
 
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Maybe not 'evil', but 'scummy'.

John Edwards and Bill Cosby are "scummy" and both well deserved their "fall from grace". Bill Cosby is/was a sexual predator and John Edwards was screwing around on his wife when she was dying from cancer and even fathered a child with his mistress. The Duggars? Ummmm.....I think "a high profile family with a TV reality show suitable for family viewing trying to keep a dark family secret from becoming public knowlege" describes them better.
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Old 08-06-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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John Edwards and Bill Cosby are "scummy" and both well deserved their "fall from grace". Bill Cosby is/was a sexual predator and John Edwards was screwing around on his wife when she was dying from cancer and even fathered a child with his mistress. The Duggars? Ummmm.....I think "a high profile family with a TV reality show suitable for family viewing trying to keep a dark family secret from becoming public knowlege" describes them better.
I find their religious beliefs absolutely disgusting. However, they are not the only people who hold those beliefs. I also note Michelle Duggar has no problem with calling homosexuals pedophiles with no basis whatsoever, while sheltering her own heterosexual pedophile son from his crimes.
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Old 08-06-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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They are homeschooled by their mother or older siblings and forbidden to attend college. None of them have any specialized training or skills in trades and don't have the physicality or attitude to perform unskilled manual labor jobs. What type of employer is looking for barely literate religious nuts with no real skills accustomed to wealth, fame and a pampered lifestyle?
They are not forbidden to attend college. One of the older kids is away at college now. The Duggar kids were all raised to be responsible & hardworking. One of the Duggar boys is a police officer.


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Have there been any incidences since?
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Of course there have. But the tracks have been covered. Pedophilia doesn't go away. This decrepit family and their reproductive exhibitionism have gotten exactly what they deserve. Bad role models, elevating irrationality to high art. Disgracia!
No, there have been no more incidents. Josh was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD when this happened. What 14-year-old boy ISN'T curious about boobs?! He's not a pedophile. He was a child when it happened, and it's long in the past. Marc Paolella, when you were a young teen, did you ever think about boobs? If you say "no," then you're either lying or you've forgotten that children are and always have been sexually curious. This is nothing new, and has been blown WAY out of proportion by the media.

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There was no therapy. Unless you are claiming Michelle Duggar lied to the police in 2006? The vast majority of child molesters do not stop, especially those who receive no real help.
Whatever they did, it worked. JOSH IS FINE NOW and he's been fine ever since coming home from his construction job/work therapy. Josh is not a child molester. He was a kid who was curious just like millions of other kids have done the same thing. He learned his lesson and he's fine now.

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I don't know about that. Those boys have helped build houses, including plumbing, carpentry work, laying tile, etc.

Agree on the breeding stock comment.
The Duggar kids have been raised very well. While most kids sit on their butts in school 40 hours a week, the Duggar kids not only learned their three R's but ALSO learned home construction, vehicle maintenance, culinary skills, missionary work, childcare, and more. The Duggars aren't "breeding stock." They're raising upstanding, productive, caring citizens.

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I agree with you that there is no evidence of any further incidents of molestation. Still, I would not leave a child anyplace Josh Duggar might gain access to that child.
Josh Duggar was A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD CHILD when the worrisome things happened. It's so far in the past. He healed so long ago. He has a wife to love on now.

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They did NOT do the right thing.
They did NOT report it (until waaaay after the fact when it was already going to get out to the media)
Your time line is way off. The entire incident and healing was in the past before the media ever knew who the Duggars were.

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They did NOT get their son therapy (they sent him to do physical labor with a friend/policeman who was not long after sent to prison for child pornography - you can't make this stuff up!)
The policeman gave Josh a stern talking-to, and apparently it worked. What the policeman did in his free time, he's paying the price for now. And the man heading the construction site was not the police officer. It was a completely different person. Do not conflate all of the matters into one.

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The attacks they are receiving ARE warranted.
No, the attacks are not warranted. Most people do similar or worse things at some point, but the Duggars have been so attacked because the media is cruel & ruthless. The Duggars have been held to an impossibly high standard although all along they've kept reminding us, "We're not perfect!"

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They have money. They aren't asking for donations.
Yes, they are asking for donations. I subscribe to the Duggar newsletter, and here's the last one they sent regarding Jill & Derrick's mission:

Friends,

We are so excited to announce that we have safely arrived on the mission field and we can now tell you that we are in Central America! Israel seems to be adjusting to the new climate, culture, food (via mom’s milk), and language faster than Jill and I are. In fact, he has been the talk of the town. Everywhere we go, people here about and want to see and hold the, “big blue-eyed, white baby” LOL. Israel is definitely growing and developing fast. It has also been wonderful to make contact and talk briefly with family back in the US to share updates.

Above all, thank you to God and all our prayer and financial partners. We cannot express enough gratitude for the ways God has been working through so many of you to make this transition for our family as smooth as possible. God has used you all to bless us and to make our vision a reality for those who have yet to put their faith in Jesus Christ, who is our only hope for salvation.

It is encouraging to already see some of the ways God is changing the hearts of the people here. Just 7 days ago, I had the joy of witnessing one elderly woman give lordship of her life to Christ. This transpired just one day after her Christian son was restored to fellowship in his local church. We were at the man’s house ministering to him with encouragement from God’s Word when the opportunity was presented to share the hope of the Gospel with his mother. It’s our prayer, and we ask you to please pray with us, that many more would repent of their ways and turn to God’s way for their life.

“Praise the LORD! Oh give thanks to the LORD, for he is good, for his steadfast love endures forever!” -Psalm 106:1

Love,

Derick & Jill

P.S. If you would like to financially support our family ministry you can do so here: https://give.cornerstone.cc/The+Dillards

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Old 08-06-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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I find their religious beliefs absolutely disgusting. However, they are not the only people who hold those beliefs. I also note Michelle Duggar has no problem with calling homosexuals pedophiles with no basis whatsoever, while sheltering her own heterosexual pedophile son from his crimes.
A pedophile is an adult who has a sexual attraction to children. As far as is known Josh Duggar does not fit that definition. I find the Duggar's religious beliefs weird but not "disgusting".

Some of the practices and beliefs of some Muslims we hear about from time to time are what I find "disgusting". Read what Iran's former supreme leader, Ayatollah Khomeini, had to say about bestiality, sex with prepubescent girls and even the rape of infants.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...d-necrophilia/

And then there is this fatwa from a Morrocan imam stating it is OK for a man to have sex with his dead wife.

Fatwa: Necrophilia Is An Acceptable Practice In Islam



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Old 08-06-2015, 05:18 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Isn't this what Republicans are always complaining about? Having to ask for handouts for the children you have?

Boo hoo! I don't wanna hear it.

Are they on "Go FundMe" or is that just a myth?
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Old 08-06-2015, 05:20 PM
 
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They are homeschooled by their mother or older siblings and forbidden to attend college. None of them have any specialized training or skills in trades and don't have the physicality or attitude to perform unskilled manual labor jobs. What type of employer is looking for barely literate religious nuts with no real skills accustomed to wealth, fame and a pampered lifestyle?
Some colleges welcome homeschooled children. Other colleges would welcome them if they got their GED.
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Old 08-06-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Some colleges welcome homeschooled children. Other colleges would welcome them if they got their GED.
In the college I went to, the kids who had been homeschooled were more decent, well-adjusted, intelligent students than anyone else.
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Old 08-06-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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In the college I went to, the kids who had been homeschooled were more decent, well-adjusted, intelligent students than anyone else.
A lot of homeschooled kids are that way. Homeschooled kids don't usually have to deal with the BS public schooled kids do such as bullying, dumbed down curriculum, troublemakers, crowded classrooms, age segregation, etc.
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Old 08-06-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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In the college I went to, the kids who had been homeschooled were more decent, well-adjusted, intelligent students than anyone else.
In the college I teach at, the homeschooled kids tend to be very socially awkward and incredibly naive.
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Old 08-06-2015, 05:57 PM
 
Location: USA
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Okay:

You call 'a stern talking to' by a friend/LEO (who was not long after convicted of child pornography) 'therapy'? and effective? Yikes. More than likely he was taught the tools of the 'trade'. Scary.

There ya go!
How do you like the 'swirl' now?
I just corrected you on your facts, so you just turned it around and put words in my mouth? I see facts mean nothing to you, you are obviously having fun. As you were......
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