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Old 08-08-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: california
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I wanted to save a baby seal but the law prevented me from intervention and the seal died of starvation and exhaustion in front of me.
The law was established by people that do not believe others should take on such a responsibility, however those the are qualified are not able, due to the lack of funds and personel to do so.
Don't preach to me about the qualifications for taking on such a task , the fact of the matter is rescues do not always mean success even by the trained pro.
If I failed, the loss would not be noticeable , If I succeeded the seal would have had a better chance of survival.
But there are some that are anxious to exact blame with out knowing all the facts, and those that would do good are penalized.
At home I provide bird houses and protect nesting areas even though some times it's inconvenient for me, and provide food for them and do every ting I can to insure their survival.
The law does not prevent me from this, but because of the media attention, I am prevented from rescuing an ocean mammal that will be food for another ocean mammal one way or another.
Venting a frustration .
Zoos and such are an important part of our culture,and seeing living things that we share the planet with.
And it is important to know where our food comes from, though many of you here probably don't want to know, still being immature infants , that's OK you still should get a grip and learn about the food chain some day.
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Old 08-08-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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They haven't taken an Orca from the wild in over 35 years.
Do we still collect whales? No we do not.
First off, that's a lie because Tillikum was taken in 1983 - 32 years ago. Second off, they may say that "we" don't take orcas from the wild anymore, but that doesn't mean "they" don't buy them from companies and groups that take sea mammals and other creatures from the wild. None of it should be done.
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Old 08-08-2015, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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They also separate the moms from the babies and send them to different aquariums as needed. To an orca, her family is EVERYTHING. In the wild they stay in their family pods for life.

Also, captive orcas have short lifespans. Many of them have died, even in infancy.
THIS!

I'm no reflexive zoo hater; I think it's fine to keep animals in zoos IF we can successfully meet their physical and mental needs in a captive environment. There are plenty of species which do just fine in captivity. Killer whales are not one of them. They are simply too large, too intelligent, and too highly social for us to maintain them humanely in a captive state.

We should enjoy them where they belong, in the ocean.
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Old 08-08-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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Attendance dropped by more than 100,000 from 6.58 million to 6.48 million.
That's hardly 85%!
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Old 08-08-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Just curious---did you watch Blackfish?
Yeah, the thing is I don't give a **** about animals.
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Old 08-08-2015, 03:45 PM
 
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WWF - Whales killed by whaling since moratorium

Reading these stats, they might be WAY safer and more likely to survive at SeaWorld then if they were on their own in the wild!
Different kind of whales.

Ironically, the "killer whales" at Sea World kill the kinds of whales in your link in the wild.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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...the other side of the story.


Truth About Blackfish
Why “Blackfish” is Propaganda, not a Documentary
I read an article several years ago where the girl that they heavily quoted who did work with the killer whales and the girl that was killed and she said she regretted working with the people who made the documentary.

She said they took everything she said out of context. While she no longer works with SeaWorld, she deeply regrets participating in the film.

Also, why are they trying to run SeaWorld out of business? What happens to the the fish if the park goes under? How about all those jobs they provide.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:49 PM
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...the other side of the story.


Truth About Blackfish
Why “Blackfish” is Propaganda, not a Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p67RoRHVtKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqvAM0tHTAA
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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I was reading an atricle related to the Cecil killing and lions live only 10 years in the wild but up to 30 in zoos with human care. Yes that sounds so terrible.
Hmmm, I guess if we locked you up in a room, fed you, kept you safe from all accidents, etc you could live a very long life. Would you be happy? Or would you want to go out and experience life even with its risks?
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Old 08-08-2015, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Hmmm, I guess if we locked you up in a room, fed you, kept you safe from all accidents, etc you could live a very long life. Would you be happy? Or would you want to go out and experience life even with its risks?
Are we really thinking that animals at zoos are saying to themselves, "this is nice, but I'd really like to live in nature where I belong?" That's a lot of projecting there.
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