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Are there abuses by CPS and its workers? Yes, absolutely.
Should every child be kept in the custody of his or her biological parent(s), no matter what, unless both parents willingly relinquish custody? Absolutely not!
As it now seems likely that Jody Herring murdered four people, I would say that CPS make the correct call in her case by removing her daughter from her. It is just too bad that the CPS worker, Lara Sobel, had to pay the ultimate price for doing her job, which was to protect children.
My sympathies to the Sobel family AND to Jody Herring's daughter.
P.S. And anyone who says that Lara Sobel deserved to be killed is just . . . well, words fail me.
Sure if you take it out of context with the rest of his post.
I can not think of any context in which murder is moral, that being that case, there can be no moral context where murder can be defended or absolved on moral grounds.
The reason why this woman was initially supported, before it was revealed that she probably murdered her family as well, is because CPS has become too big for their own good. They have tendencies towards usurping parental authority, which to me should be darned near absolute. (Notice I said darned near.) I have children, and unless I'm sending them to school with belt welts and broken bones, I don't think I should have to justify or explain my parenting to ANYBODY. I'm the parent, they're my children, that's that.
Instead, we have a system where people are constantly battling CPS and people snitching on them for things like letting them walk home from the park or from bruises that came from playing ball. It's insulting. Why should I have to justify my parenting style to strangers? "Because there are children who are abused"--okay, on one hand I get that, on the other hand I feel that other people's mistakes aren't reason enough for my family life to be a fishbowl experience full of constant scrutiny. If my child acts up in the store and I feel compelled to give him a pop, why shouldn't I be able to do that? Why can't it be that if someone takes offense to that I can say "parent YOUR children YOUR way, I'll parent MY children MY way" and that be it?
Yes there is such a thing as too much parental authority with too little oversight, but there's also such a thing as too little parental authority with too much oversight. That's where we're at now, and people are fed up, as well they should be.
Some of you idiots must not realize that she killed 3 other people as well. But, keep telling yourselves she was an upstanding citizen who really shouldn't have had her kid taken away...
When I was an LEO usually only 1 out of every 100 child welfare calls resulted in a child being taken out of the home. IMO 50% should have occurred based on what I observed and dealt with in regards to the investigations. And no kids don't get taken out for dirty dishes.
This subhuman POS must have been some real piece of work.
I did on several occasions though put a few Child Welfare worker in their place. To the point of getting interviewed by IA on a few. I was always found on solid ground with my admonishments.
I always would have rather dealt with scumbag gang bangers shooting each other than Domestic calls.
The reason why this woman was initially supported, before it was revealed that she probably murdered her family as well, is because CPS has become too big for their own good. They have tendencies towards usurping parental authority, which to me should be darned near absolute. (Notice I said darned near.) I have children, and unless I'm sending them to school with belt welts and broken bones, I don't think I should have to justify or explain my parenting to ANYBODY. I'm the parent, they're my children, that's that.
Instead, we have a system where people are constantly battling CPS and people snitching on them for things like letting them walk home from the park or from bruises that came from playing ball. It's insulting. Why should I have to justify my parenting style to strangers? "Because there are children who are abused"--okay, on one hand I get that, on the other hand I feel that other people's mistakes aren't reason enough for my family life to be a fishbowl experience full of constant scrutiny. If my child acts up in the store and I feel compelled to give him a pop, why shouldn't I be able to do that? Why can't it be that if someone takes offense to that I can say "parent YOUR children YOUR way, I'll parent MY children MY way" and that be it?
Yes there is such a thing as too much parental authority with too little oversight, but there's also such a thing as too little parental authority with too much oversight. That's where we're at now, and people are fed up, as well they should be.
Amen to this . Case in point those boys in florida . Parental neglect and then the parents get rewarded for being sorry parents aka go fund me account with thousands of dollars in it .
What a terrible waste of life at the hands of a deranged woman. Then what I don't get is she has pleaded not guilty?
I think it is time we change the justice system so killers who are caught in the act cannot plead not guilty. I say go ahead and have the trial, find out what motivated her and lock her up for eternity. Better yet save the tax payers and put this animal down.
What a terrible waste of life at the hands of a deranged woman. Then what I don't get is she has pleaded not guilty?
Perhaps it is because she does not believe that she is guilty or at least not guilty of the crimes that she is charged with. As ridiculous as that may seem to you and I, that is every defendants right.
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I think it is time we change the justice system so killers who are caught in the act cannot plead not guilty. I say go ahead and have the trial, find out what motivated her and lock her up for eternity. Better yet save the tax payers and put this animal down.
Ah, sorry but no. Caught in the act, the act of what and who gets to decide when such an act is a crime? The police, I think not. The 6th Amendment spells out how we go about determining those questions.
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