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Some of the business did request armed guards. The government will not send them to protect the business, what do you want the owners to do, sit and watch their places destroyed?
There's a huge difference between a person with a shotgun or a holstered pistol guarding their business and someone who looks like they are a member of the CIA Special Activities Division about to call an airstrike on a Taliban hideout.
It's not illegal, but they can be arrested if law enforcement asks them to leave and they don't..
If the cops asked the men who weren't breaking any laws to leave, they'd also have to ask all the protesters to leave. How do you think clearing the streets would go over?
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Never said it was, that was something you injected into my post.
So, were you saying they should arrest people that weren't doing anything illegal when you said:
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Arrest them all, put them in the same cell, and the problem should take care of itself.
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There's a huge difference between a person with a shotgun or a holstered pistol guarding their business and someone who looks like they are a member of the CIA Special Activities Division about to call an airstrike on a Taliban hideout.
There's a huge difference between a person with a shotgun or a holstered pistol guarding their business and someone who looks like they are a member of the CIA Special Activities Division about to call an airstrike on a Taliban hideout.
If the cops asked the men who weren't breaking any laws to leave, they'd also have to ask all the protesters to leave. How do you think clearing the streets would go over?
That's nonsense. Police simply have to ask if a person is from the area and if the answer is no, the person is told to move on or they'll be arrested. If no other reason, they do that for the safety of fools who want to be in the middle of a mess.
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So, were you saying they should arrest people that weren't doing anything illegal when you said:
Originally Posted by MPowering1 Arrest them all, put them in the same cell, and the problem should take care of itself.
What part of this don't you get? They don't have to be doing anything illegal. Cops can tell you to clear out of an area or be arrested.
Are you new to the country that you don't know that?
BruSan imagines:
"when the four of them stayed within kleenex-tossing range of themselves and just the one news camera"
They were on rooftops and behind businesses most of the time. When the need was over, they left as quietly as they arrived. Most of the time people are not aware they are nearby at all.
Oath keepers are guarding military recruitment centers around the country. There are not enough of them to guard all recruitment centers all day every day. You guess which days they are guarded.
Having some nitwit walking up and down the street dressed like a lost soldier, carrying an assault rifle...and you have to ask what the "big deal" is? That alone is frightening.
We saw the same thing a couple of weeks ago where they showed up in front of an armed forces recruiting station until one of them shot a hole in the pavement while "showing off his assault rifle". People with better sense asked them to leave...and not return.
We are at the point where guns are out of control in America. Every day a shooting here, a few gun deaths over there. It doesn't even mean anything any longer...until it is your loved one that comes home in a box. Sadly, the lives we have spent thus far don't even put a dent in the hue and cry for more guns. Arm the teachers; wear a bullet proof vest to the movies; go through screening to get into an office building; have everyone walking around with a six shooter under their shirt. Yup...that is working real well to bring down the number of guns, and gun injuries/deaths.
And please....that crap handed out by the NRA about your "second amendment rights" so they can get you to buy a gun and help make their constituency--the gun manufacturers--rich? (If you want to find out what an organization really stands for, follow the money.) Why don't you try reading the second amendment. It doesn't say a darned thing about YOUR right to walk around with a gun.
". . . the right of the People to keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed"
Then just who are "the people"? And what does "bear arms" mean? Infringe?
I would make it MANDATORY for all children taking at least one hour of gun safety classes every week from Kindergarten through 12th grade. Watching violent video games and TV shows and Movies are not a very good way to learn how to handle firearms safely.
I think teaching firearms safety is just as important as teaching children about hygiene and sex education. In an ideal world they would have basic instruction on these topics at home but last time I checked we do not live in an ideal world.
Im more about the laws of common sense. And common sense says these Rambo wannabes should go home and play COD, leave the policing to the professionals.
That's nonsense. Police simply have to ask if a person is from the area and if the answer is no, the person is told to move on or they'll be arrested. If no other reason, they do that for the safety of fools who want to be in the middle of a mess.
To make sure I understand you, you wanted the cops to start checking everyone's ID's to verify who lived in that area?
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What part of this don't you get? They don't have to be doing anything illegal. Cops can tell you to clear out of an area or be arrested.
Are you new to the country that you don't know that?
The perceived need for militias and/or vigilante justice is a strong sign that society is crumbling and segments of the population no longer trust the government to maintain order. For those of you who have read the Dark Tower series, it almost feels like the world is in the process of "moving on".
I'm also amused that the Oath Keepers are apparently more "disquieting" that the roving bands of imported professional agitators, thugs, criminals and other assorted societal dregs.
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