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Old 08-26-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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That's what I was trying to say. I mean, what could someone have done to prevent this except ban guns altogether, and then they'd be sold illegally anyway.

People who have followed my posts for years might be surprised, since I've always been a Democrat and support gun control. However, if someone is determined to commit a crime, he'll find a way. Maybe without a gun, he would have built a bomb which isn't that hard to do. You don't have to be a chemical engineer to make a Molotov cocktail and toss it into a crowd causing serious injury.
If you really want to take someone out you simply wait for them to be loading stuff into a vehicle and yank the steering wheel into them. News crews are always standing in the street.

 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Is the shooter dead? If so, does it matter if this was a "hate crime" since that' only a legal term to determine the charge.


Absolutely it does. If only for the symbolic effect that a hate crime is a hate crime regardless of which race or ethnicity it is committed by and committed against.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This was not a police shooting. So what difference does it make if the shooter was Black or White? It only makes a difference to the media, the politicians and the activist groups. I doubt if the families of the victims care what he looked like.

Is the shooter dead? If so, does it matter if this was a "hate crime" since that's only a legal term to determine the charge and penalty.
I'm sure the justice department is very relieved that it doesnt need to defend not charging a hate crime here.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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America, is believe it or not, is one of the most violent countries in the world. Everyone knows that!
And yet our rates of crime across every category are dropping and have been for decades. Youre more likely to get mugged in London than you are in New York City.

Most of the violence in America is isolated primarily to a few urban areas, gang on gang violence, across most of the country rates are lower than what you would comparably find in various countries in Europe.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Absolutely it does. If only for the symbolic effect that a hate crime is a hate crime regardless of which race or ethnicity it is committed by and committed against.
In my book all serious crimes are hate crimes.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Why did he commit suicide? Thats kinda cowardly, why not face the music and go to prison and be a man. He could have roomed with Jared Fogle.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why did he commit suicide? Thats kinda cowardly, why not face the music and go to prison and be a man. He could have roomed with Jared Fogle.
Because all of these shooters are cowards to begin with and before offing themselves they want to take as many as they can with them.


Why do other animals kill stuff just to kill it? We are all animals and it's animal behavior. Many animals are cannibalistic.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Why did he commit suicide? Thats kinda cowardly, why not face the music and go to prison and be a man. He could have roomed with Jared Fogle.
Because he was a *****-made coward, like all these mass shooter types, a bunch of sad, cant get laid, softer than Quilted Northern social misfits with no reason for their existence than to destroy.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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The shooting looks so fake.

Lady was shot, but she ran and screamed.

The Camera just stood there to record her screaming and running, then he slowly laid his camera on the ground. Instead of dropping it and screaming or yelling.
 
Old 08-26-2015, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Because he was a *****-made coward, like all these mass shooter types, a bunch of sad, cant get laid, softer than Quilted Northern social misfits with no reason for their existence than to destroy.
I agree with you, most of the mass shooters do commit suicide but Holmes the Colorado theatre shooter didn't. Committing Suicide like the Muslim terrorists do is the ultimate sin.
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