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For sure …
She is perfectly free to follow her conscience 100%, go to court, be fined and jailed and fired, and then get rich writing her memoir and going on the conservative speech/banquet/talk show circuit …
It's a free country …
But especially as a guv'mint employee she is not free to impose her religious faith or conscience on everybody else in the county …
See: The First Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment ...
Shes' not using force to impose her beliefs on others. Only government can do that. Unless you are saying she's the only one who can perform those duties.
Lol, that's typical; you can bet he didn't go the "civil service" route like the majority of the employees. Nepotism is aluve and well in all levels of government.
But that doesn't change what I said. Those guys were terrible, screaming at the rest of the employees sitting at their desks. They're truly caught in the middle.
Perhaps the best solution would be for Kentucky to enact a law that permits religious county clerks to transfer marriage-related duties to another county staff member.
Yes. And...? Are you implying she should not have to comply with any new laws?
If it is against her religious beliefs and does not violate anyones rights, which she hasn't because no one has a right to marriage, then she shouldn't comply. I support her even though I don't care who gets married and would have to agree under the equal protection clause same sex marriages are legal.
I don't know if counties have multiple clerks but government should hire a clerk who will. If I wanted to be a county clerk I'd run on that policy.
The rub is government should never have gotten involved in the first place.
Shes' not using force to impose her beliefs on others. Only government can do that. Unless you are saying she's the only one who can perform those duties.
Any clerk in her office can issue a license. Out of six clerks in her office, four have the same adversion as she, one is undecided, and one is OK with issuing same sex licenses. She has made the arbitrary decision however that NONE of her clerks are to issue licenses based on HER beliefs. This is why ALL of them are being hauled into court on Thursday.
Show proof a couple got a license legally without marrying. Obviously you cannot. I don't understand what point you are trying to make.
You're getting silly.
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In addition to the above waiting period, some states include as one of their marriage license requirements a waiting period between the time you receive your marriage license and the time you can actually, legally, get married. Most states allow you to get married immediately, but here are the ones that don't and how long you have to wait.
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Once you've received your marriage license, it is only valid for a certain amount of time. Here's how long you have before your license expires and you have to reapply for another.
Show proof a couple got a license legally without marrying. Obviously you cannot. I don't understand what point you are trying to make.
You're getting silly.
Actually, in fact the "marriage" isn't "legal" until the properly witnessed signed document is returned to the county where it was issued …
Here in Minnesota, e.g., we clergy are required by law to send it in within five days … BUT … If, say, the next morning the happy couple decides they had made a big mistake and they come by my office and ask me to just shred the document instead of sending it in, and I do so … then … NO legal marriage will have taken place even though there was a wedding ceremony and exchange of vows and rings and a cake and wine and gifts and a dance and a wedding night consummation … !!!
You get the official license before the ceremony and it's official? That doesn't sound right. I can see getting the license and it becomes official after the marriage is performed.
I don't know what your point is but without that license government won't recognize the marriage. That's the point. It's about government officially recognizing the marriage.
There is a license. There is a certificate.
The license PERMITS you to go get legally married.
The certificate is what you get AFTER you are legally married.
Getting a license does not mean you are married UNTIL it is officiated (a wedding) AND filed with the county.
If you get a license and do not have a ceremony officiated the license expires and no longer is good.
You are not legally married by applying for a license.
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