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Old 09-01-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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No, the NSA (National Security Agency) has nothing to do with 09/11 or immigration/border control,and was in existence since the 1950s. They do spy satellites and things like that. You must mean the TSA which was created with the Department of Homeland Security after 9-11.
you are correct, as an organization it was founded during truman, exclusively for foreign intelligence and counterintelligence purposes.

i refer to the timeline of domestic spying. this has everything to do with 9/11. the actual name of such organization is restricted and top secret, and falls into the jurisdication of the "NSA", but is wholly independent.

In the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, the NSA created new IT systems to deal with the flood of information from new technologies like the internet and cellphones. ThinThread contained advanced data mining capabilities. It also had a 'privacy mechanism'; surveillance was stored encrypted; decryption required a warrant. The research done under this program may have contributed to the technology used in later systems.

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Old 09-01-2015, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Oh good. And then form yet another Washington DC bureau spending billions. Let's just all line up, have our tracking devices implanted and be done with it. And may the odds be ever in your favor.
Totalitarian governments throughout history have restricted the travel of their citizens. The Republicans would live to implant everyone with GPS chips that could be scanned for birth, employment and criminal records. Some states have already tried making it mandatory to carry citizenship papers everywhere, which the SOTUS declared unconstitutional, so now they just require a birth certificate or citizenship papers to get a driver's license. It always has been, of course, a crime not to provide identification when requested by a police officer. There's your travel papers. Done deal.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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No he doesn't. Immigrants are fine.

He wants to track visitors. That way they won't become immigrants, which is what is happening so often now.
S' whassa problem? You come to the country, you check in and then you check out.
Which is exactly what happens now. Do you people know anything?
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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They also can walk into any ER with any illness or injury, minor or not, and get treated for free. In many areas, ERs are filled with illegal immigrants (or others without insurance) with illnesses like strep throat, clogging up the hospital and its resources. Their kids can get free lunches at school. They or their kids may be eligible for a free college education soon or some day (thanks Obama). They tend to commit a lot of violent crimes in the border states where they are most prevalent.
So can you...
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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you are a fox republican like many i've seen these past 7 years.. which is basically a white socialist. megyn kelly, hannity, o'reilly.. the whole lot of them. there is no such thing as republican and democrat anymore.. you are either a capitalist or a socialist.

by adhering to protectionism, you are a socialist.. there is a party of white socialists who have created this thing called the tea party protecting "us white" under the pretense of archaic 16th century jeffersonian dogma and black/white law. slavery got abolished btw.

this very thinking is how stalin and mao rose to power in their respective nations.

the united states remains a democracy because laws do get changed.. but many laws are broken for years and even decades prior to becoming a new set of laws, esp in areas involving uninalienable human rights. our nation's laws are ALWAYS in flux.
Uh huh. You have me all figured out, don't you?



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So can you...
Except I'm a citizen. Also I have insurance so I wouldn't need to.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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Maybe our ire should be directed at the people who exploit them for pennies on the dollar. That negatively impacts both the immigrant and the American born worker. But the problem with that approach is it makes too much sense.
That is what Chris Christie is saying he wants to do.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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It's a nice idea, but how are they actually going to do it? The immigrants don't want to be watched because they're usually trying to do different levels of illegal activities.
I don't see it working in the real world.
I'm a Green Card holder (an actual immigrant), more law-abiding than most, and I don't want a tracking device because, frankly, I moved to the US and not East Germany. Tourists will stay away in droves, that's for sure.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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Uh huh. You have me all figured out, don't you?


the multitudes of posts you post here read like you're sean hannity's wife.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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That is what Chris Christie is saying he wants to do.
after 7 years everyone now knows christie is just a socialist fox set to guard the henhouse.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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the multitudes of posts you post here read like you're sean hannity's wife.
Deal with it.
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