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This is one misstep in a long history of missteps and misadventures in that region - and many, many countries have meddled in that region for many, many years. Not just the US and the UK. Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Australia, Japan, etc etc etc - any country with any oil interests at all has been coon fingering and jockeying for position and advantage and courting crazy radical Islamists and betting on various horses (none of which seem to cooperate in the long run) and then saying "Oh, ****!" and deploying troops or selling arms to various locales for many years.
It's a hot mess, but you know what they say about sleeping with the enemy and politics making strange bed partners. Big business makes strange bedfellows as well.
Prior to WWl there were no actual national borders on the Arabian Peninsula. It was basically a few city-states and open land.
The problems really escalated with oil and the formation of the "Big 7" oil conglomerates.
Actually was watching news coverage of Berlin's "open armed" welcome of these migrants on PBS last light. The reporter asked one of the Berliner volunteers if she was helping out of "gulit about Germany's past...); her reply was "yes" for that and a few other reasons. So there you are then.
This will not end well for many of the refugees, especially those in Germany. As with other waves of Muslims into that and other European countries the children and or those born after arrival stand a better chance.
Unless one has working German language skills finding employment legally will be difficult to impossible. Learning German is *not* easy especially for older persons. There will be required exams in order to move along the path and or to obtain permission to work in certain if not all areas. Know Americans who followed their German spouses to that country and still after several years cannot find work easily because of limited language skills. Those that did find work were through contacts and basically are either working off the books or even legally but for Americans or English bosses.
While Europe struggles to make room for the fleeing migrants the richest Arab nations do nothing for them. The fleeing migrants are mostly Muslim Syrians. I thought they are suppose to help their muslim brothers in a time of need. Yet as of this date here is their acceptance statistics:
No uproar from the liberal press. Only uproar from liberal press is we are not doing enough.
Not surprising. Yet so many Muslims hate the West rather than the rich Arab elites/royalty who do nothing for their own people. And that's the way those wealthy elite want it. Deflect the blame so they can continue sitting pretty on their immense inherited wealth.
While Europe struggles to make room for the fleeing migrants the richest Arab nations do nothing for them. The fleeing migrants are mostly Muslim Syrians. I thought they are suppose to help their muslim brothers in a time of need. Yet as of this date here is their acceptance statistics:
No uproar from the liberal press. Only uproar from liberal press is we are not doing enough.
I don't think those countries would be considered ideal in the eyes of the Syrians, abuse of migrant workers there isn't uncommon there are so many video's documenting abusive treatment of foreign workers in that region.
Prior to WWl there were no actual national borders on the Arabian Peninsula. It was basically a few city-states and open land.
The problems really escalated with oil and the formation of the "Big 7" oil conglomerates.
Instant wealth = Instant Trouble
Right - which is why I was careful to use the term "region" rather than naming specific countries.
I agree that oil greatly exacerbated the problems in that region - though there has been civil unrest, upheaval, war, invasions and one unsavory regime after another for hundreds of years. Oil made it worse - it involved the world.
Right - which is why I was careful to use the term "region" rather than naming specific countries.
I agree that oil greatly exacerbated the problems in that region - though there has been civil unrest, upheaval, war, invasions and one unsavory regime after another for hundreds of years. Oil made it worse - it involved the world.
Not just the US.
Yes, this area in particular, along with the Balkans and some other places in Eastern Europe, have always experienced unrest. I mean, we're talking about areas where people were repeatedly massacred, areas that have been completely depopulated time and again due to conflict. When the Mongols conquered Baghdad in 1258, they literally drove each and every civilian out of the city onto a plain and slaughtered them all - men, women, and children. That's where the term "killing fields" originally came from. And that's just one small example. There have always been outside powers and empires fighting over these regions, at the expense of their peoples and cultures, since antiquity. They have never learned to exist in a way that does not involve war, murder, genocide, etc.
This is actually a really interesting op ed from CNN by a Muslim about the situation. I don't agree with everything he writes but he does raise some very valid points. The Middle East would like to blame colonialism, and thus Europe/the US, for the state in which it finds itself, but China, India, South America, etc. were all colonized yet do not experience these problems.
Right - which is why I was careful to use the term "region" rather than naming specific countries.
I agree that oil greatly exacerbated the problems in that region - though there has been civil unrest, upheaval, war, invasions and one unsavory regime after another for hundreds of years. Oil made it worse - it involved the world.
Not just the US.
True there are many nations and people involved. It is quite complex and many factors are at fault.
True there are many nations and people involved. It is quite complex and many factors are at fault.
I agree - it's a hot mess.
Here are some pithy phrases that apply to that region:
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
"But why are you surprised I'm acting like a snake? I AM a snake."
Don't sleep with the devil.
Politics makes strange bedfellows.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Oil and water don't mix.
Speaking of oil:
Blood for oil.
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