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Lions, particularly adult male lions, are valued in western society (particularly American society) no doubt due to the media, including films such as "The Lion King" (Mufasa/Simba have a place in my own heart as well). But not just Lions. Elephants (Dumbo?) Polar Bears, Tigers, Dolphins (Flipper), Elk, Horses (Spirit?) Leopards, Bears (Jungle Book?), PANDAS especially etc. are known as "charismatic megafauna". These are animals that appeal to peoples' emotions. Usually they are majestic animals, animals that are frequently portrayed in popular culture. For decades, they have been used by conservationists and animal rights activists as "the faces" of the fight against human destruction of nature. It's not arbitrary, for example, that a panda is on the insignia of the World Wildlife Fund.
CNN did a story about a Missouri couple catching the "world's largest catfish" just before the Cecil killing took place:
Is this fish any less deserving of our sympathies than Cecil was? Was it just the fact that Cecil was wounded for 40 hours? What if this fish had been wounded 40 hours before dying?
Don't get me wrong, Walter Palmer is a certifiable psychopath. P-S-Y-C-H-O. Anyone who expends that amount of time and energy and money just for the privilege of stalking and killing a creature has a depraved heart. Stalking and killing not for food, not for necessity, but rather for the entertainment factor. That's who Dr. Palmer is. That's the definition of psychopathy. But let's not, as a society, pretend some animals are not favored over others.
Indeed. What about the lowly Coyote. The villain in comic strips. The vacuum of kick dogs and cats. Where is the love for the vicious Coyote just trying to survive.
I've seen a Mink in one night kill over two hundred chickens. ONE Mink. It urinated and scented up the place so nothing else could eat them.
Indeed! How can we overlook him. Disney has given us many vermin heroes. Lol, as has Warner Bros and Hanna Barberra. I wonder how many rodents and insects have been spared because of these animated images? And birds. Woody Woodpecker comes to mind. Nobody appreciates what woodpeckers can do to ones home.
"Listen I understand (kind of) the outrage about this lion but big game hunting is nothing new. Many rich people have engaged in such activities for centuries. I really don't think this makes someone a psychopath. IMO, its not much difference between your run of the mill deer hunter and vegans. Vegans think hunters are terrible, awful people. Are they? Its all lies in our own perception."
There's a difference between a garden variety deer hunter and Dr. Palmer. I'm actually vegetarian (almost vegan) and have no problem with people who hunt for food. I wouldn't do it unless I absolutely had to, but at the same time, it's incredibly humane compared to factory farming in the US. So to the extent a deer hunter is actually hunting for food, have no problem with it.
What Dr. Palmer is doing, however, is not that. 55,000, right? Or something like that? Think of what that money could be used for. Someone's college education, for example. Instead, he used it to purchase the right to stalk, hunt, and kill an animal for the thrill of it. Not because he needed the meat. Not because it was a danger. Because it's an addiction for him, and it makes him feel good. Do you understand the difference here?
Furthermore … One magnificent lion killed needlessly yields one mounted trophy …
A photo safari, OTOH, could have resulted in a HUNDRED gorgeous photos of "Cecil" without any harm to one hair on his mane …
The problem for this dentist is that when customers are faced with the choice of someone who did this and was in the news vs someone who just is a dentist with no recent crazy PR, people will choose to not be involved in his drama. You never know who will show up at this office and I wouldn't risk it.
Maybe he should be wary of taking in new patients?
Furthermore … One magnificent lion killed needlessly yields one mounted trophy …
A photo safari, OTOH, could have resulted in a HUNDRED gorgeous photos of "Cecil" without any harm to one hair on his mane …
*sigh*
Well, that lion will have killed a bunch of other critters in that time span. Probably some cubs to boot. A bunch of Hyenas and maybe a person. Nature, she scary.
Well, that lion will have killed a bunch of other critters in that time span. Probably some cubs to boot. A bunch of Hyenas and maybe a person. Nature, she scary.
"Nature" doesn't exist to fulfill our fantasies, does She … ???
"Open wide … Breathe through your nose … "
(My all time top favorite "Dentist" character is the one played by Steve Martin in "Little Shop of Horrors" …)
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For many years we have taught our children and now grandchildren to capture "bugs" in a jar, look at them for a while, and release them outdoors …
Cockroaches carry pathogens and so ought to be eliminated from homes with no compunction ...
Oh, so you're a speciesist! You think that humans are somehow "superior" to cockroaches and guinea worms and so it's ok to round them up and commit genocide against them. You know who else believed that humans are better than vermin and parasites? Hitler.
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...... What Dr. Palmer is doing, however, is not that. 55,000, right? Or something like that? Think of what that money could be used for. Someone's college education, for example. Instead, he used it to purchase the right to stalk, hunt, and kill an animal for the thrill of it. Not because he needed the meat. Not because it was a danger. Because it's an addiction for him, and it makes him feel good. Do you understand the difference here?
Or it could be used to help preserve lions in a wildlife refuge, and provide income to several people who might otherwise live in dire poverty.
Ya, these morons born in a mall should just stay there. Douche bags release aquarium fish because they are too stupid to figure out how to care for them. These fish that are not indigenous to the area take over. We now have carp, snake heads and other niceties because of these empty headed fools that have watched too many movies like avatar. Clueless and classless.
They cause millions of dollars of damage by these "good deeds". What kind of moron releases a store bought anything? Would you release a dog from the pet store? A poisonous snake? Dipsticks.
Wow.You sound really terribly miserable just like your username. Btw we don't have those problem over here, must be where you live is full of morons and idiots that good deeds make you feel so awful to oblige an issue and hate carps. Other morons are also ignorant to think doing good deeds is to make oneself feels better. Btw you can read the title right?? Do start your own thread for your much needed miserable rants or better, seek a shrink.
And without ongoing abuse of nature, we would not be in the global ecological mess that we have unwisely created ...
If you feel that strongly, do something about it.. Demolish wherever it is you live and return it to it's native habitat, live in a tent in the woods.. Human development has done far more harm to wildlife then any hunting will ever do..
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