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Old 09-07-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by pennyone View Post
If you hunting for fun folks are so proud of your "sport", then don't blame me for having no sympathies when you are attacked, injured or even killed by your prey. In fact, for you special lot, I am hoping that your prey fight back hard and successfully. And there should be a law that forbid the use of public money to rescue lost and injured hunters in the wild. Go at your own peril and cost.

I don't think hunters are looking for your sympathy.
Would you rescue a lost hiker? They spend far less on wildlife conservation.

 
Old 09-07-2015, 02:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pennyone View Post
If you hunting for fun folks are so proud of your "sport", then don't blame me for having no sympathies when you are attacked, injured or even killed by your prey. In fact, for you special lot, I am hoping that your prey fight back hard and successfully. And there should be a law that forbid the use of public money to rescue lost and injured hunters in the wild. Go at your own peril and cost.
How about fishing????

Is that wrong too??
 
Old 09-07-2015, 03:42 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Jeeeez ..... can't we all just get over Cecil? His time was about up anyway, and his death was fairly quick by lion standards, who often get too old to feed themselves and then die of starvation.

I think it's rather shocking that so many people around the world, most of them meat-eaters, are so disturbed by this that many of them are calling for his imprisonment. He was an old lion, fer chrissake. Not a human. There are people in that area with untreated medical conditions and periodic semi-starvation, nobody cares about them. There are people around the world who live in total misery from having their homes and families blown up gassed with Sarin, and many are tortured before being executed in the countless wars around this planet. Kids are wandering around alone as refugees without family. People starve to death in some places or suffer from terribly painful chronic medical maladies that could be treated, if they were able to afford it.

With priorities like this, no wonder the human race is so effed up.
 
Old 09-07-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Originally Posted by Woof View Post
Jeeeez ..... can't we all just get over Cecil? His time was about up anyway, and his death was fairly quick by lion standards, who often get too old to feed themselves and then die of starvation.

I think it's rather shocking that so many people around the world, most of them meat-eaters, are so disturbed by this that many of them are calling for his imprisonment. He was an old lion, fer chrissake. Not a human. There are people in that area with untreated medical conditions and periodic semi-starvation, nobody cares about them. There are people around the world who live in total misery from having their homes and families blown up gassed with Sarin, and many are tortured before being executed in the countless wars around this planet. Kids are wandering around alone as refugees without family. People starve to death in some places or suffer from terribly painful chronic medical maladies that could be treated, if they were able to afford it.

With priorities like this, no wonder the human race is so effed up.
No kidding …

So a rich white guy from The USA feels perfectly fine about spending umpteen thousands upon thousands of $$$ on … trophy hunting …

Sick ...
 
Old 09-07-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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No kidding …

So a rich white guy from The USA feels perfectly fine about spending umpteen thousands upon thousands of $$$ on … trophy hunting …

Sick ...
Not if some of that "umpteen thousands" gives you a pay check.
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:31 PM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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Wow! Wow! Wow! JUST wOW!

Didn't he get a LEGAL permit to LEGALLY hunt (NOT POACH) a lion. The people in that country make the rules and require permits which again were legally obtained. Why the outcry over here. I guerentee not a bit was wasted. I know people who have gone over there and hunted some of Africas big game. Yes, they are trophy hunting! Yes, they are also taking what they can of the meat and the rest goes to the locals. Even if all they wanted was the trophy, I personally see no harm in these situations. These hunters (again NOT poachers) are going through an outfitter and using a guide. If the hunter does not want the meat the guide/outfitter will make sure that it is utilized and given to the locals. Not everybody in every place on earth is blessed with having a grocery store right around the corner from them. Or has the money to buy items if there was one.

So that takes me to so called "trophy hunting". The "trophy" is just one part of the outcome as the meat is utilized as well. Many people go "trophy" hunting for whitetails and it actually benifits the herd. They pass up the younger ones and wait for that older trophy to come by that has already added his genes to the population for several years and might only live another year or two. Believe me, the meat is not wasted. true, those little corn fed youngins are tasty and tender but an older buck living his life on corn and beans has some tasty backstraps as well and can be taken to any of an assortment of places to get a winters supply hotdogs, jerky, sausages, snack sticks and practically any other meat based item from which can be healthy and quite tasty.

Then there are those mentioning that hunters hate nature. That is about as far from the truth as it gets. Nature watchers and bird lovers should be thanking us hunters. Your welcome for all the protected wildlife refuges and lands that we paid for. Your welcome for bringing many species (both game and non game) back and removed from the endangered species list!. Setting food plots has gotten quite common now to give deer a healthy diet and it ensure a healthy heard. Not only for the deer that may be hunted but every other animal in that area as well. Ponds are set up and many waterfowl hunters have one location that they absolutely will not hunt. It is protected by all means. It gives the birds a safe zone. Win win for all. More birds on the farms to hunt in the area. More birds staying over for the birdwatchers to watch.

Seems a lot here really need to educate themselves a bit on hunting and the good that comes from it. They need to learn that trophy hunting is not just trophy hunting (as in the case with some cat nobody heard of until last month). They also need to learn that poaching is totally different then hunting. Personally, I don't know a single hunter who supports poaching.

IMO, good on that dentist for returning and I recon he may even get new clients. A lot of people hunt in this country. If that really offends you, I hope you never pass through these parts and need to see a DR as many offices around here have assorted waterfowl mounts and paintings are usually centered around hunting.
 
Old 09-07-2015, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I have personally known hunters who occasionally engaged in poaching, but only for meat to feed a family, not for trophies ...
 
Old 09-07-2015, 11:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Woof View Post
I think it's rather shocking that so many people around the world, most of them meat-eaters, are so disturbed by this that many of them are calling for his imprisonment. He was an old lion, fer chrissake. Not a human. There are people in that area with untreated medical conditions and periodic semi-starvation, nobody cares about them. There are people around the world who live in total misery from having their homes and families blown up gassed with Sarin, and many are tortured before being executed in the countless wars around this planet. Kids are wandering around alone as refugees without family. People starve to death in some places or suffer from terribly painful chronic medical maladies that could be treated, if they were able to afford it.

With priorities like this, no wonder the human race is so effed up.
People are capable of caring about more then one issue at once.
 
Old 09-07-2015, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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Originally Posted by pennyone View Post
If you hunting for fun folks are so proud of your "sport", then don't blame me for having no sympathies when you are attacked, injured or even killed by your prey. In fact, for you special lot, I am hoping that your prey fight back hard and successfully. And there should be a law that forbid the use of public money to rescue lost and injured hunters in the wild. Go at your own peril and cost.
I second this
This guy's office is just a few miles from my house. I really hope his dental practice goes down the crapper - no more safari hunts for him.
 
Old 09-08-2015, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by marlinfshr View Post
Wow! Wow! Wow! JUST wOW!

Didn't he get a LEGAL permit to LEGALLY hunt (NOT POACH) a lion. The people in that country make the rules and require permits which again were legally obtained. Why the outcry over here. I guerentee not a bit was wasted. I know people who have gone over there and hunted some of Africas big game. Yes, they are trophy hunting! Yes, they are also taking what they can of the meat and the rest goes to the locals. Even if all they wanted was the trophy, I personally see no harm in these situations. These hunters (again NOT poachers) are going through an outfitter and using a guide. If the hunter does not want the meat the guide/outfitter will make sure that it is utilized and given to the locals. Not everybody in every place on earth is blessed with having a grocery store right around the corner from them. Or has the money to buy items if there was one.

So that takes me to so called "trophy hunting". The "trophy" is just one part of the outcome as the meat is utilized as well. Many people go "trophy" hunting for whitetails and it actually benifits the herd. They pass up the younger ones and wait for that older trophy to come by that has already added his genes to the population for several years and might only live another year or two. Believe me, the meat is not wasted. true, those little corn fed youngins are tasty and tender but an older buck living his life on corn and beans has some tasty backstraps as well and can be taken to any of an assortment of places to get a winters supply hotdogs, jerky, sausages, snack sticks and practically any other meat based item from which can be healthy and quite tasty.

Then there are those mentioning that hunters hate nature. That is about as far from the truth as it gets. Nature watchers and bird lovers should be thanking us hunters. Your welcome for all the protected wildlife refuges and lands that we paid for. Your welcome for bringing many species (both game and non game) back and removed from the endangered species list!. Setting food plots has gotten quite common now to give deer a healthy diet and it ensure a healthy heard. Not only for the deer that may be hunted but every other animal in that area as well. Ponds are set up and many waterfowl hunters have one location that they absolutely will not hunt. It is protected by all means. It gives the birds a safe zone. Win win for all. More birds on the farms to hunt in the area. More birds staying over for the birdwatchers to watch.

Seems a lot here really need to educate themselves a bit on hunting and the good that comes from it. They need to learn that trophy hunting is not just trophy hunting (as in the case with some cat nobody heard of until last month). They also need to learn that poaching is totally different then hunting. Personally, I don't know a single hunter who supports poaching.

IMO, good on that dentist for returning and I recon he may even get new clients. A lot of people hunt in this country. If that really offends you, I hope you never pass through these parts and need to see a DR as many offices around here have assorted waterfowl mounts and paintings are usually centered around hunting.
Not in Cecil's case. The cowards skinned him, cut off his head, and left the rest.

Cecil the Lion -- Bones Will Become a Memorial | TMZ.com
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