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I guess with her logic, I won't be able to check out pork if I am at a counter with a Muslim as my cashier, or buy alcohol or get birth control pills/condoms etc if I happen to check out with a devout Christian/catholic cashier. Hay, our soldiers can also choose not to shoot during war! Heck, young men and women can choose not to enlist even with a draft because making war is against their religion!!!!! How's that for the right wing crowd!? She is utterly ridiculous and ignorant.
I guess with her logic, I won't be able to check out pork if I am at a counter with a Muslim as my cashier, or buy alcohol or get birth control pills/condoms etc if I happen to check out with a devout Christian/catholic cashier. Hay, our soldiers can also choose not to shoot during war! Heck, young men and women can choose not to enlist even with a draft because making war is against their religion!!!!! How's that for the right wing crowd!? She is utterly ridiculous and ignorant.
Both of those things happened. My father had combat medics in both Vietnam and Korea who would not even carry guns. Many of them served very bravely, they weren't unwilling to do their part, they just morally objected to shooting someone themselves. True conscientious objectors for religious reasons being exempted from the draft has a long history in this nation. If you are a member of some religions the exemption is automatic, such as the Amish.
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Like it or not, the woman has her religious convictions and one of them is that men marrying men and women marrying women is against those beliefs.
And that's totally fine, and has zero to do with her job duties. She's not performing, certifying or otherwise authorizing such religious marriages.
Her job duties are only concerned with registration of civil contracts, including civil marriage. It's the law of the land. If she doesn't like it, she can move somewhere with Sharia law. In the U.S., we have separation between church and state, and separation between religious marriage and civil marriage. She is free to exercise her faith and free to not believe in gay marriage in the religious context. She is not free to defy the Supreme Court, however.
Both of those things happened. My father had combat medics in both Vietnam and Korea who would not even carry guns. Many of them served very bravely, they weren't unwilling to do their part, they just morally objected to shooting someone themselves. True conscientious objectors for religious reasons being exempted from the draft has a long history in this nation. If you are a member of some religions the exemption is automatic, such as the Amish.
I hear many right wingers calling this exemption a cowardly act, yet they rally around this woman using the same excuse.
They had to let her out sometime, after all, what were they going to do, give her life for just contempt ? That is cruel and unusual punishment, IMO.
Like it or not, the woman has her religious convictions and one of them is that men marrying men and women marrying women is against those beliefs. To be honest, I think it is pretty weird too. No wonder kids today are so confused, no one knows who is what any more.
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You don't have to like it. But you have no right to tell other people how to live...especially if it's against the law. Kids are confused in general, btw. Your generation was too, but being "out" wasn't acceptable....which is why you had catholic priest and boy scout leader pedophilia.
This woman might be religious (a whacked out religious imho) but so what? Her religion can't intrude on others. Given her life choices, she has a lot of nerve doing that.
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To those who believe that "crimes against nature" are just personal choices, she must be vilified.
But since antiquity marriage has been a joining of property for the benefit of progeny (No, love has nothing to do with it).
Insisting there's a "right" needing permission for something that is useless (a marriage contract between non-breeders) is absurd.
The courts knew this but pretended otherwise - to further a different agenda - the destruction of religion in America.
Because if you can destroy the belief in a mythical Creator and his endowed rights, you can promote "human rights" from benevolent government.
It is common sense that anyone proscribed by religious or secular laws shall seek the destruction of said religions or laws. For they are inimical to each other. In their haste to attack, they may have overstepped.
She may have galvanized Christians to resist. And I suspect she will continue to block licenses to those she believes are sodomites.
What happens when police officers refuse to arrest her and others who also refuse assent to laws they deem are not for the public good?
AGAINST NATURE
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To those who believe that "crimes against nature" are just personal choices, she must be vilified.
But since antiquity marriage has been a joining of property for the benefit of progeny (No, love has nothing to do with it).
Insisting there's a "right" needing permission for something that is useless (a marriage contract between non-breeders) is absurd.
The courts knew this but pretended otherwise - to further a different agenda - the destruction of religion in America.
Because if you can destroy the belief in a mythical Creator and his endowed rights, you can promote "human rights" from benevolent government.
It is common sense that anyone proscribed by religious or secular laws shall seek the destruction of said religions or laws. For they are inimical to each other. In their haste to attack, they may have overstepped.
She may have galvanized Christians to resist. And I suspect she will continue to block licenses to those she believes are sodomites.
What happens when police officers refuse to arrest her and others who also refuse assent to laws they deem are not for the public good?
What an utterly bizarre post. What color is the sky in your world? Have the aliens landed yet?
And who knew that "Christians" have always banned marriage of people unwilling or unable to have kids? I guess my heterosexual marraige in a Catholic church should be annulled because we don't have kids yet.
Who also knew that same-sex couples were apparently unable to have kids through adoption, surrogacy, donor insemination or co-parenting? One "learns" something new every day, I guess.
Her name has been removed from the certificates, it just says Rowen County with no name and the signature of the issuing deputy clerk on them now. That issue has been addressed.
I won't be surprised if she orders the deputies not to alter or remove her name from the licenses.
imo, she doesn't want and won't accept this very reasonable accommodation of her religious beliefs.
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