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View Poll Results: Is a downtown tower for a school a good idea or a bad idea?
It's a good idea 4 15.38%
It's a bad idea 22 84.62%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-19-2015, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Originally Posted by jaypee View Post
Right.

65k/13 grades = 5000 kids per grade.
If you stagger even 30 minutes (assuming you can get 5000 kids out of a building in 30minutes) that's 6 hours between K and 12th graders.
So if the Kindergarteners start school at 8AM, the 12th graders have to start at 2PM?
An hour apart each, from the elementary/middle/high school grades.
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:54 AM
 
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Never going to happen, and if your thinking about this in Chicago? Funny all I can say. I guess you haven't worked Ina high-rise and what an issue is getting in and out of some buildings, not talking commute. Now kids/ chaperones for school? 50-60k kids? Yea that's going to work.
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Old 09-19-2015, 01:32 AM
 
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These large monolithic school systems need to be broken up.

Return schooling to the neighborhood level.
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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These large monolithic school systems need to be broken up.

Return schooling to the neighborhood level.
I'm not sure what you mean by "monolithic school systems", but a county school system involves a great deal of financial savings simply due to scale.

On the other hand, huge schools are a bad idea.
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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Bad idea. Part of the problem is the cost savings of having one large building instead of multiple buildings is the cost of engineering and construction of a 95 story building as well as maintaining such a building is as high or higher than building and maintaining multiple schools of 4 stories or less. The other problem is busing or travel time. Those living close to the 95 story building are fine. However, those living furthest away will spend the greatest amount of time on the bus going to and from school. County school districts should be allowed to freely go back to neighborhood districts. This means you look at the school population, students' home distance from particular schools, and so students will go to the school they live closest to. In most cases, students living in the same neighborhood will all go to the same school. This will create a sense of community support. Instead, school districts are based upon racial percentages regardless of their geographical location thus causing long bus routes. With a 95 story building, I assume you're designating several floors as a gym for PE classes (if they have those at all). For these to be a gym, you're going to need at least two floors of space for ball throwing and ventilation. All those bodies exercising and playing will generate heat and humidity. Proper ventilation design will draw out the hot humid air from the ceiling while providing cool air. These gym floors would also need to have solid walls instead of glass window walls. The windows would need to be high up and protected by wire screens to prevent damage. Another disadvantage of 95 stories for a public school is elevators. Maintaining a 4 story or less elevator is far easier and cheaper than maintaining elevators for buildings of this size. Depending on city and state codes, the school district may be required to have an elevator service contract as well as go through regular testing with city or state elevator testing officials. This isn't cheap. How much generator capacity would such a building require? Many schools don't even have generators. Then again, many schools aren't 95 stories. Without generators, the interior temperature of the school would quickly rise to unbearable levels in hot months and quickly drop to freezing in winter months depending on location. Without generators, only way to evacuate the building is stairs. What about handicap students or students on crutches with broken legs? What about elderly teachers nearing retirement age? What about food? Are they going to be prepared at an offsite location and trucked in or will a few floors be set aside for cooking and serving?
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Old 09-20-2015, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Sounds like a good B movie plot:

School Tower Terror!

Or maybe a teen stoner melodrama:

95 Stories High
LOL

Some of you people have some worst case scenario anxiety. A repeat of 9/11 is extremely unlikely and if anything security could be increased to prevent shootings by beginning classes on the 3rd or 4th floor and a moderate police/security presence in the lobby and around the building.

With that being stated, it is a bad idea.
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