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Old 10-05-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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My point was to you saying he had finished his business and had nothing further to do with the scene....he knew he shot an innocent person in the head, is leaving the scene rather than rendering aid and staying to talk to the cops "his best"? If so, I hope we never see his worst.

Your post makes it sound like you think he was well within his rights to leave the scene of a crime in which he shot an innocent man in the head...do you actually think that?
What's he supposed to do? Just stand there and say, "Okay, I shot the guy."

If he does that he's making himself a sitting duck for both criminal and/or civil liability. If he's got no shooter's insurance, he could be forced to pay damages out of his own pocket.
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Old 10-05-2015, 12:10 PM
 
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What's he supposed to do? Just stand there and say, "Okay, I shot the guy."

If he does that he's making himself a sitting duck for both criminal and/or civil liability. If he's got no shooter's insurance, he could be forced to pay damages out of his own pocket.
The simple answer is Yes. Yes he should have stayed with the person he shot to help render aid and talk to the police about the situation. After all, he IS responsible and should be liable for the damage he caused.

So, if some random person shot you in the head (by accident), wouldn't you want them to stay around or are you perfectly ok with him gathering his shells and bailing?
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Old 10-05-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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What's he supposed to do? Just stand there and say, "Okay, I shot the guy."

If he does that he's making himself a sitting duck for both criminal and/or civil liability. If he's got no shooter's insurance, he could be forced to pay damages out of his own pocket.
Too easy!!!

LOL. Wow.
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Old 10-05-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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What's he supposed to do? Just stand there and say, "Okay, I shot the guy."

If he does that he's making himself a sitting duck for both criminal and/or civil liability. If he's got no shooter's insurance, he could be forced to pay damages out of his own pocket.
Yes, that is exactly what he was supposed to do and what any CCW holder would have been taught. Somehow the presumption seems to have arisen that this guy was legally carrying but I am not making that leap.
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Old 10-05-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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What's he supposed to do? Just stand there and say, "Okay, I shot the guy."
Yes.

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If he does that he's making himself a sitting duck for both criminal and/or civil liability. If he's got no shooter's insurance, he could be forced to pay damages out of his own pocket.
That would be very likely even if he'd correctly shot the bad guy. Everyone carrying a weapon should understand that if they ever use it, they will most likely face thousands of dollars of attorney fees even as a good outcome. Everyone who gets a CHL should make getting liability insurance and some kind of legal shield insurance his next two tasks.

And if he shoots the wrong guy, it's only right, just, and moral that he should be liable for damages. Shooting someone who would not have been shot except for you is not the same thing as attempting to render aid to someone who is already injured.
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Old 10-05-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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What's he supposed to do? Just stand there and say, "Okay, I shot the guy."

If he does that he's making himself a sitting duck for both criminal and/or civil liability. If he's got no shooter's insurance, he could be forced to pay damages out of his own pocket.
Then he shouldn't have shot. I am really not at all sure what you are saying. He was required by law to stay, there is no choice. Sitting duck for what?? Are you saying it is okay for him to break the law? He shot a man, he shouldn't have to answer for it?? You wouldn't render aid if you shot the wrong man??
I really don't understand what you are arguing for here. Are you for law-abiding gun use, or aren't you? The car jacker was no longer on the scene btw, so that had no bearing on the guy leaving.

If it was your innocent loved one shot in the head by a man who just runs and leaves him to die, you would be fine with it as long as his intentions were good originally?? I really need a little more to understand exactly what you are saying/intending to mean, because right now honestly I can't see any ration or reason in your arguments.
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Old 10-06-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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What's he supposed to do? Just stand there and say, "Okay, I shot the guy."
Yes. Responsibility, it's a thing.
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