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Old 10-05-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: NC
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Note to Jamaica: the English were arseholes to everyone.

Love, Ireland
and same here,
Love Scotland

 
Old 10-05-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Always sticking that hand out.
Native Americans and people in Africa weren't sticking their hand out when Europeans colonized them. They didn't ask for Europeans to come and take over.
 
Old 10-05-2015, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Yeah, that casino revenue looks pretty painful.
Casino revenue doesn't make its way to the general population on the reservations.
 
Old 10-05-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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Note to Jamaica: the English were arseholes to everyone.

Love, Ireland
and same here,
Love Scotland
A lot of Irish and Scottish folks were paid by the government when their Jamaican slaves were freed.

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Daniel O’Connell (an anti-slavery advocate from the 1820s onwards) protested against this compensation payment and requested that the names of those receiving this money be made public. This Parliamentary return (1837-8), which is over 300 pages long, lists the basic information about those who received compensation. Researchers at University College London have studied this parliamentary return along with the full Slave Compensation Records and have created a new online database which reveals that nearly 100 different individuals, either born or based in Ireland, benefited directly from this slave compensation; (compared to circa 36 from Wales, 394 from Scotland and 1,879 from England).

Opinion: Following the money
 
Old 10-05-2015, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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Casino revenue doesn't make its way to the general population on the reservations.
That's hardly the white man's fault. Maybe the band councils should be forced to pay restitution to their own people.
 
Old 10-05-2015, 07:01 PM
 
Location: NC
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A lot of Irish and Scottish folks were paid by the government when their Jamaican slaves were freed.
Interesting!
 
Old 10-06-2015, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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AND WHEN DOES THIS end???
we ALL benefit somehow from someone's past atrocities...so knock it off free loaders
You have to be careful to not use this as an excuse to avoid dealing with racism and inequality issues in the present.
 
Old 10-07-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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You have to be careful to not use this as an excuse to avoid dealing with racism and inequality issues in the present.
Oh yes, it's really important that we don't use the comical lack of proximity of the grievance industry's Original Sins to present reality as an excuse not to dispense to them yet more racial spoils.
 
Old 10-08-2015, 12:56 AM
 
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And just about every British citizen is a decedent of a serf, which is practically a slave.

Get over it, the world is a bad place (we have more slavery right now then at the height of triangle trade).
 
Old 10-08-2015, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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And just about every British citizen is a descendant of a serf, which is practically a slave.

Get over it, the world is a bad place (we have more slavery right now then at the height of triangle trade).
The way I understand it, the difference between a serf and a slave was that ownership of the serf was tied to the land, whereas a slave was personal property.

So, if you were a serf on an estate and Noble MDrenter owned the estate, he owned you, too. But if along comes the Mighty Queen and wins favor with the King over MDrenter and the King gives MDrenter's land to Mighty Queen, Mighty Queen now owns you because you come with the land.

The results are pretty much the same. Punishment for crimes for serfs was harsher than for non-serfs. If somebody killed a serf or decided to rape his wife, nothing would happen.

I once heard a saying, "Everyone is descended from a king and a slave".
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