Thank you for at least attempting to respond with respect, courtesy, and logic. It is a refreshing change from your rants where you proclaim anyone who uses mj is a damaged liar who only sucks the life out of society.
I am not going to attempt to respond to each point, I'll just cherry pick your responses. I think that is prudent since our debate on this subject is ultimately futile anyway, since I have found without exception that there is no such thing as changing a prohibitionist's mind nor changing the mind of those who are enlightened.
Drug use helps you attain enlightenment ?.. A spiritual journey of awakening the consciousness?... Or just that you are experienced taking drugs?
This one I just had to mention, because it is so ironic. If I had a nickel for each time I thought the exact same thing concerning your posts, I would be fairly wealthy.
Money spent drive my agenda. .regardless of the proponents insults... Police today put zero effort into user enforcement. To catch a case for simple possession something else occured... We don't even book for it..
That is simply not true. It may be true in California, but I personally know someone who's son is being dragged through the court system (currently out on bond ) in Stillwater, OK for a miniscule amount found in the door handle of his car. This is not from a story or a report, I
personally know this person.
Again..more to this case...
This is where I don't understand your brain. How can someone as intelligent and logical as you throw logic right out the window when discussing this subject? When legalization occurs nationally, along with
sane tax rates, the cost will be low enough to take the teeth out of the black market. Illegal grows won't be profitable enough at that point to make it worth the risk. How can you not see that? That's a rhetorical question, I know the answer. It is your agenda.
All the legalization models that account for all parameters that are legit as far as I can tell dispute this..
Learn about the road ahead from those coming back... We already see this in California... Legalization at some point in the distant future MAY accomplish what you say... Short term.. Twenty years..no way
We already see tax cheating in Colorado.. Even with the associated bureaucracy formed to enforce it..m its not like drug users are used to being model citizens .. We saw that normal mj and mmj was circumvented for cheaper mj... Illigally grown or transported in from places where people are murdered for it
That is simply not true, and if you will read older posts here on CD you will see that. "Proponents" (more accurately you should refer to us as "anti-prohibitionists") have always said mj is easier to obtain than alcohol. Even when I was in high school in the 1970's mj was easier to get. It has ALWAYS been easier to get. Alcohol is highly regulated and thus not available on every street corner. Mj, on the other hand, is unregulated and comes from many sources. That makes it super easy for high school kids to become mj dealers. I knew some myself in high school. But you don't see moonshine dealers in high schools, now do you? Regulation is the key. Legalized and regulated, mj looses a lot of its glamor, and it would no longer be as readily available at every street corner.
Models show its use will increase...we see that already... the stoner class.. 10 percent will remain chronically addicted.. They will become a permanent welfare class
I just can't agree with that, because I know of too many cases where it was used in place of recreational alcohol (myself included). Recreational alcohol can be really bad news, depending on the user.
This is where your knowledge and experience really fails you. Those "420" gatherings are NOT representative of the vast majority of mj users. Not even close. You won't acknowledge that, because the majority of mj users are people you rarely come across in your line of work, and when you do you don't know it. Trust me, you have friends and relatives that are mj users that you would never suspect because they are perfectly normal. The type of user I am describing cannot be picked out in a crowd. But it fits your agenda to not acknowledge their existence, especially because their numbers are in the millions.
Estimates that 1/3 of our population uses some kind of drugs.. Of those 30 million are serious marijuana users. We will.. We are paying for everyone of those
One of the reasons these people are normal is because their mj use does NOT diminish their drive or will! I don't think you even acknowledge that different strains produce different effects, much less the fact that there are strains that
motivate and
energize. Just a little research would set you straight on that, but you have too closed of a mind to even consider it.
You might get hyper as your body reacts to a poison... Thc at 35 percent for good mj... Or really high with honey oil approaching 90 percent but you are delusional if you think you perform better stoned
So, contrary to your belief, the mj users you see on a daily basis, most of whom are young, lazy, and lethargic, do not in any way resemble the majority of mj users.
Again, close-mindedness and lack of research prevents you from seeing reality when it comes to this aspect of it. There is NOT zero evidence. Guys who have the type of brain that causes them to excel at being computer gurus are a good example, and matches my personal experience, experience that goes back to the 1970's. In the last 40 years of being in the industry, the best computer guys almost always used mj as a natural aid. It really can help with focus and creativity. That is one reason why musicians use it on a large scale.
Musicians or creative left brain individuals excel when they are focused.. Mj use isn anathemic to that
Drug use and performing doesnt wotk out that well
Here is some documented evidence that supports my position. It is the FBI director talking about how they are having to reconsider their drug testing standards, because when trying to hire the best of the best computer geeks to fight cybercrime, none of them tested clean for mj.
That only means thebpool is polluted... We can develop a future where people dont perceive drug use as appealing. Currently the drug culture does everything it can to state the points you are using... False points I might add
Comey: FBI ‘Grappling’ With Hiring Policy Concerning Marijuana - Law Blog - WSJ
Now that I am done, why do I feel like this was just a colossal waste of time?
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