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Notmeofficer and Teilhard are comically uninformed.
All their hollow strawman arguments and extreme hyperbole actually hurt their already weak viewpoints.
Luckily, these flat-Earth type thinkers are finally being exposed, as people are waking up and finally seeing their propaganda for what it is.
The "legalize MaryJane movement" is in the opinion of some of us a Libertarian "camel's nose under the tent" … (In fact, some posts in this very thread have called for as much -- just sell ANY and ALL drugs over*the*counter … Why not … ???)
I understand you're very proud of that phrase since you used it 4 or 5 times already, but as I said before, I think it's just as stupid as the "now we can marry dogs and cats and potted plants" argument that said legalizing same sex marriage was the "camel's nose under the tent". I simply do not agree with you.
No … I am no fan of "Big Pharma" at all … but I am a BIG fan of the natural sciences …
Anecdotes are interesting but finally don't mean much …
But … HEY … !!! I (age 66) take in fairly good size lashings of strong black coffee and a fair bit of dark red wine EVERY DAY … and I've NEVER had any cancer or heart disease … My blood pressure is smack in the normal range … I haven't been to a clinic in YEARS … My kidneys and prostate work just fine … My bowel movements are regular ...
So … Voila' … !!! …
The secrets to healthy life with no significant lethal disease … ??? Coffee ... !!! Red Wine … !!!
Pain is the most common ailments for mmj script... And as a narcotic mj is an effective abet imperfect drug for treating such...
Sleep ailments... Unspecified pain.. Inability to handle "normal" stressors of life are also listed in the literature.
Problem
A very high ...pun intended... Amount of recipients think of their script as a get out of jail for free card... And even though the law requires a warning they drive under the influence..they live under the influence ... They wander into dui probation stinking of skunk weed and wonder why they get remanded to custody
We have our Dr feel-good who flys in on her private plane and writes 25 or more script per day.. Advertising no pass no pay policy in the local penny saved magazine...and we have had the typical bumper crop of mj defense attorneys making entire livings off of dopers
I don't know... When I see a 18 year old who says he can't sleep or his back hurts I think...
Really?
Test this garbage.. Restrict it for what it is.. Grow it in Monsanto labs with Conagra and Pfizer...Let the dopers continue to be the losers they are... I imagine when pharma has control it will lose its luster
The above won't reduce leo workload... Just shift its naming of them ... Dopers will still be dopers and engage in doper loser behaviors..seek "better" highs...and perhaps continue on a life of drug fueled and focused dysfunctionality
Notmeofficer and Teilhard are comically uninformed.
All their hollow strawman arguments and extreme hyperbole actually hurt their already weak viewpoints.
Luckily, these flat-Earth type thinkers are finally being exposed, as people are waking up and finally seeing their propaganda for what it is.
I don't presume to speak for "Notmeofficer," but only for myself …
Again … patiently … I am in favor of SCIENCE in studying these questions, and no, I don't just take casual anecdotes (no matter how many how sincerely urged) as "science" …
But … LOL … The huge wave of "propaganda" in this thread is coming from the "Ganja Is A Miracle Substance" crowd ...
I don't presume to speak for "Notmeofficer," but only for myself …
Again … patiently … I am in favor of SCIENCE in studying these questions, and no, I don't just take casual anecdotes (no matter how many how sincerely urged) as "science" …
But … LOL … The huge wave of "propaganda" in this thread is coming from the "Ganja Is A Miracle Substance" crowd ...
I'm for legalization, but anecdotal evidence is not the way to sway others.
Why accept 20,000 studies from people that got $500,000 per study to please pill makers, but $0 if they didn't say what pill makers wanted. Very few anecdotal testifiers got even $1 to tell their story & when hundreds or thousands say the same thing, what motive could they have for lying?
How do you feel about one act being no penalty in 1 state & 100 years in another, for doing something that didn't harm anyone? We can't have honest science if pill makers determine how the money flows.
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Originally Posted by Teilhard
I don't presume to speak for "Notmeofficer," but only for myself …
Again … patiently … I am in favor of SCIENCE in studying these questions, and no, I don't just take casual anecdotes (no matter how many how sincerely urged) as "science" …
But … LOL … The huge wave of "propaganda" in this thread is coming from the "Ganja Is A Miracle Substance" crowd ...
Thousands say it saved their lives & they got nothing to say that. But liars get paid $500,000 per study if they please toxic pill makers. So you like the highly paid for statements better? If so, how do you think they could possibly be truthful when so many will do anything for money?
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Originally Posted by rleroy
I'm for legalization, but anecdotal evidence is not the way to sway others.
Live Science is a total fraud as no comments allowed & when I put in search contact Live Science, nothing comes up. They hide even more than cannabis users that are risking arrest. They know 100 million would write them about their fraud if it was possible. Truth tellers shouldn't need to hide but it is obvious they know they don't qualify.
Cannabis lowers blood pressure, so how does that cause heart attacks? The blood couldn't get through because there was more space for it to get through?
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Originally Posted by notmeofficer
Your heart and marijuana Ma'am... your age is against you in this as well
You using is not a study.. you are a personal guinea pig.. like a using a parakeet to determine if there is gas in a mine.. by that time its way too late...
You have no idea.. and respectdully no clue.. what long term changes marijuana has already made in your body. The body adapts beautifully.. but .. your personal use isnt scientific by any means.. and if someone didnt grow out of pot as an adult isnt that another sign of classical addiction?
Why accept 20,000 studies from people that got $500,000 per study to please pill makers, but $0 if they didn't say what pill makers wanted. Very few anecdotal testifiers got even $1 to tell their story & when hundreds or thousands say the same thing, what motive could they have for lying?
How do you feel about one act being no penalty in 1 state & 100 years in another, for doing something that didn't harm anyone? We can't have honest science if pill makers determine how the money flows.
The problem with accepting anecdotes as a substitute for good science is nothing about whether people are truthful or not or anything about money ...
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