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Old 11-07-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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Old 11-07-2015, 05:10 PM
 
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The idea of putting a theme park/casino/Las Vegas hotel with a few thousand drunk people in the middle of a really, really unfriendly element never really struck me as, y'know, logical.

Admittedly, I seek out the ocean in small boats with pieces of fabric for propulsion, so perhaps I am not one to talk.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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I have done a fair amount of cruising, specifically with Royal Caribbean, and generally have a great time. Though RCCL is working to attract a more youthful crowd the passengers are generally a bit more mature than say on Disney or Carnival. Even so, occasionally you still see someone that does not know anything about moderation and/or civility.

It is my understanding this individual was in a domestic dispute where alcohol was involved.

After he fell, the ship stopped. It spent over 8 hours on scene with two boats deployed, trying to find the man before the Coast Guard took over.

In the mean time you have over 5 thousand other passengers to take care whom all what to know how this is going to affect their vacation, getting home on time and complaining about how their trip is ruined and expecting RCCL to compensate them in some way.

Too bad the ship can't just throw a life ring over board with a radio attached. If the passenger calls them in an hour or so they could go back and get him. If not ... too bad.
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Old 11-08-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: NYC
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According to his husband's attorney it was a dispute with the crew of the ship that caused him to jump. Personally I think they are looking for a big payday. I've cruised plenty of times and have never seen the crew anything other than courteous to all passengers, gay or not.

Attorney: Cruise ship passenger 'fell over' after dispute with s - WSVN-TV - 7NEWS Miami Ft. Lauderdale News, Weather, Deco
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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Cruised plenty and have only seen the normal rude, drunk types from T2T, more to this story.

And yes the cruising industry does little to slow drinking because it's where they make all their money just watch the CNBC done by a cruise exec.

From the sound of things not at all lawsuit worthy but maybe the cruise industry needs to continue to receive a safety review.
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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Cruised plenty and have only seen the normal rude, drunk types from T2T, more to this story.

And yes the cruising industry does little to slow drinking because it's where they make all their money just watch the CNBC done by a cruise exec.

From the sound of things not at all lawsuit worthy but maybe the cruise industry needs to continue to receive a safety review.
IMHO people need to learn to control themselves when drinking. I don't think cruises should have to monitor drunk passengers any more than any other business just because they're floating on the ocean. Fully grown adults should be responsible for themselves. Have a drinking issue, of any sort? Perhaps you should avoid a cruise. In my experience reading stories from cruises, most accidents happen when people are drunk.
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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According to his husband's attorney it was a dispute with the crew of the ship that caused him to jump. Personally I think they are looking for a big payday. I've cruised plenty of times and have never seen the crew anything other than courteous to all passengers, gay or not.

Attorney: Cruise ship passenger 'fell over' after dispute with s - WSVN-TV - 7NEWS Miami Ft. Lauderdale News, Weather, Deco


Can you even sue them in a US court (State or Federal), Don't have to sue them in the country they are are flagged to?

Panama? Liberia? ....
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I can't figure out why the captain (or whoever was in command of the ship) didn't stop the engines immediately? (or slam it as fast as possible into reverse) It looks like it was going full steam ahead. What's with that?
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:23 PM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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I can't figure out why the captain (or whoever was in command of the ship) didn't stop the engines immediately? (or slam it as fast as possible into reverse) It looks like it was going full steam ahead. What's with that?
Ships of that size can not stop on a Dime, Slamming it in reverse would cause cavitation the ship, Better to slow down make a U turn and come back.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:52 PM
 
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I can't figure out why the captain (or whoever was in command of the ship) didn't stop the engines immediately? (or slam it as fast as possible into reverse) It looks like it was going full steam ahead. What's with that?
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Ships of that size can not stop on a Dime, Slamming it in reverse would cause cavitation the ship, Better to slow down make a U turn and come back.
Also, a ship that is not underway will have a hard time steering (not sure if this one has the clever propulsion pods that lets you direct the screws through 360 degrees), and any abrupt maneuvering will (literally) make waves where you don't want them with a man over board. Plus I suspect the wing stabilizers will stop working once you're no longer underway, and if a cruise ship suddenly starts rolling, there will be injuries. Rescue has to be from a lowered boat, anyway - ships are not good to be around if you're in the water.

It's likely to be a lost cause. Man-over-board is surprisingly difficult under the best possible circumstances. Incapacitated victim with no flotation device? You have to give it your best try, of course, but I can see not risking any further injury to crew or passengers.
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