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He should have not have used a taser and beaten him. Just because he's not following orders doesn't mean the officers can use any level of force.
why because he mama boy. he making noise at 3:30 am. he bothering everybody in the complex. he should of been beaten to an inch of his life with a whiffle bat
Yes, "get your belongings and get in the truck", that was frequently heard in Germany in the 30s, how did that turn out.
Best not to question anything.
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Originally Posted by seain dublin
You do realize(or maybe you don't) that you wouldn't have a United States if people just shut and did what they were told?
The fact is police depts. across the country have become very militarized. There are people who are cops who shouldn't be. The female cop in PA who shot the man in the back who was lying on the ground like she screamed like a teenage girl that saw a big spider is a great example.
Again, you have to be paying attention and not more concerned about "Dancing with the Stars".
There is a difference between being obnoxious in a situation when it doesn't call for it, and not questioning anything when it does.
Again, just shutting up and doing what you told worked great for 6 million Jews in Germany didn't it? No real fighting back, no questioning anything, just do what your told.
Because the person wearing the uniform can never be wrong.
To attempt, in any way, to compare this with Nazism and genocide is completely pathetic, and disgusting.
I thought the officer was pretty patient actually. These party animals should have just gone outside, talked with him and been done with it. Makes me wonder if they had underage drinkers inside. Probably made the officer wonder that as well.
In no way does this resemble that female officer shooting the guy in the back and screaming out of her wits.
I thought the officer was pretty patient actually. These party animals should have just gone outside, talked with him and been done with it. Makes me wonder if they had underage drinkers inside. Probably made the officer wonder that as well.
The only reason that guy was so "patient" is he was alone and waiting for backup. Notice how quickly his patience evaporated once backup arrived?
Lots missing from the video. It seems like these videos always start about five minutes too late. I would have been quite interested to see when the kid "grabbed the officer's arm".
I'm not sure what grounds they would have had to enter the home initially. I would assume an initial noise complaint is the type of event that leads to a citation/ticket not an arrest. Granted, once the door is open he could have probable cause for other events, but he didn't indicate any of that when asked. He only indicated the "arm grabbing" incident. I would like to know the details between opening the door and the arm grabbing incident.
The kids were disrespectful jerks, but in America it's your right to be a disrespectful jerk. Police don't get to bully you for that.
Can you really excuse the officers at the end who are telling them to f* off?
I don't get why everyone is saying that he should have just gone outside. Sure it could have helped but i ask why does he NEED to go outside. He can but that doesn't mean he has to. This was a noise complaint. Why can't he stay in the doorway, say yes sir and close the door on the cop. The cop shouldn't be in the house. The police chief or whoever he is gave a press conference about this incident and even said so that the police cannot enter a residence without a warrant. Again, it's a noise complaint. I don't think it's an arrestable offense. write the ticket and go home. I think this cop just didn't like being talked to like that and escalated the situation.
To be clear, I am always respectful regardless of who I am talking to but when I look at these situations, I ask myself 'what is the crime being committed'. Being disrespectful and mouthing off to a cop is not a crime and the police should know that. Put your pride in check and de-escalate the situation.
I went to college in the mid-ninties, and I went to a lot of parties. The university I attended at one time was voted Playboy Magazine's Party School of the Year. That was 20 years ago. We knew the drill. There would be parties, some at private homes and Rush week at several at the frats. The frat parties were surprisingly better managed that private home parties. Not to say that a lot of craziness did go down at both, it just seem like back then there was not so much drama. That girl screaming? What a buzz kill. No one likes that. No one finds it attractive. It sounds like a desperate plea for attention, and that never ends well. The guy is a jerk too. Whats the problem? Just step outside. YOU ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT. You just aren't. Nothing to be ashamed of, most people aren't. Yet a lot of people seem to think that they are Paris Hilton or a male equivalent.
How it would have been handled back in the day? A party gets some noise complaints, the COPS show up. Some guys go out and talk to them, of course while they are talking to them, most party-goers are getting the hell out of Dodge. The party is over. Ok, here is the shocker. Sometimes, if there is a party going on, and someone decides for whatever reason that they want the party to end, they call in a complaint to the police on their own party!!!! Low on booze? Who are these people anyway? Call the police. Done.
It just seems like today everything is a major issue, when, it just isn't. Your little party is not going to be on TMZ.. Oprah is not waiting to interview you. Basically, nobody cares. Nobody.
The only reason that guy was so "patient" is he was alone and waiting for backup. Notice how quickly his patience evaporated once backup arrived?
Lots missing from the video. It seems like these videos always start about five minutes too late. I would have been quite interested to see when the kid "grabbed the officer's arm".
I'm not sure what grounds they would have had to enter the home initially. I would assume an initial noise complaint is the type of event that leads to a citation/ticket not an arrest. Granted, once the door is open he could have probable cause for other events, but he didn't indicate any of that when asked. He only indicated the "arm grabbing" incident. I would like to know the details between opening the door and the arm grabbing incident.
The kids were disrespectful jerks, but in America it's your right to be a disrespectful jerk. Police don't get to bully you for that.
Can you really excuse the officers at the end who are telling them to f* off?
If the young man would have stepped outside when asked, they probably would have gotten a warning or at worst, a citation for the noise....they go back inside , cops goes away, end of story. Instead you have belligerent jerks, hell bent on busting the cops horns, basically refusing to let him in....right then it tells me they are hiding something. The girl is screaming like a lunatic and they are insistent they don't want the cop to enter. It is typical in most states that a LEO needs a warrant for a search and seizure. Cops typically can enter a home for "probable cause"....at that point I am thinking there are underage drinkers in there. BINGO, I now have probable cause. Legally the cop is allowed to enter the house and by you touching the cop (assault) or by shutting the door on him (obstruction), you are breaking the law. Now, you may find it a menial offense, but if they didn't bust the cops balls, this probably wouldn't have happened. To your point, it is their "right to be jerks" and you are absolutely correct. By the same respect, it is LEO's job to enforce the law. How many times did he ask professionally to step outside....5? He gave them every opportunity to make this easy. To many people think this is an equal negotiation, it isn't....The cop is in CONTROL, not the residents in this case. If your pride is hurt in that scenerio, GET OVER IT....the vast vast majority of cops would have taken the resident outside and said something like "it's 3:30 am, turn it down, break up the party" problem solved. Because of the idiotic mindset of "well it's my right to be a belligerent jerk", you are correct. That type of mindset comes with consequences, as you saw
If the young man would have stepped outside when asked, they probably would have gotten a warning or at worst, a citation for the noise....they go back inside , cops goes away, end of story. Instead you have belligerent jerks, hell bent on busting the cops horns, basically refusing to let him in....right then it tells me they are hiding something. The girl is screaming like a lunatic and they are insistent they don't want the cop to enter. It is typical in most states that a LEO needs a warrant for a search and seizure. Cops typically can enter a home for "probable cause"....at that point I am thinking there are underage drinkers in there. BINGO, I now have probable cause. Legally the cop is allowed to enter the house and by you touching the cop (assault) or by shutting the door on him (obstruction), you are breaking the law. Now, you may find it a menial offense, but if they didn't bust the cops balls, this probably wouldn't have happened. To your point, it is their "right to be jerks" and you are absolutely correct. By the same respect, it is LEO's job to enforce the law. How many times did he ask professionally to step outside....5? He gave them every opportunity to make this easy. To many people think this is an equal negotiation, it isn't....The cop is in CONTROL, not the residents in this case. If your pride is hurt in that scenerio, GET OVER IT....the vast vast majority of cops would have taken the resident outside and said something like "it's 3:30 am, turn it down, break up the party" problem solved. Because of the idiotic mindset of "well it's my right to be a belligerent jerk", you are correct. That type of mindset comes with consequences, as you saw
Reminds me of that viral video of a couple years ago …
A stupid loud mouth (young male) jerk was continually interrupting a speech and creating a public nuisance … As the cops were escorting him out, he continued to shout out, "Don't taze me, bro. … !!! Don't taze me, bro. … !!! … the result being that … finally … the cops tazed him …
*shrug*
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