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Two wrongs don't make a right! I don't care what the deceased's former arrest record looks like! Are you looking to make a excuse for the horrible actions these so called "professional" police officers conducted?
He wasn't even under arrest! He was under Police custody and obviously there was something wrong with him when he busted out the Police window & slammed his head into the Emergency Room entrance.
He was obviously in need of medical attention and didn't need to be hog tied & tasered over 20 times. Why didn't they just sub due him and have the ER medical staff check him out? He even told the police officers he had done Cocaine.
Another blame the perp person.....
You do realize, that when someone is a law breaker, like I'm assuming this guy had done often and probably has the rap sheet to prove it, that eventually, the decision to break the law is going to catch up with you and it's usually going to end badly. Hey, when you're a criminal and that's the life you choose, that's the contract you signed.
These cops did the right thing to protect themselves and the medical staff.
I'm leery about taking sides on this based upon the video and released information by the plaintiffs attorney who if you don't know how these things work is trying to put pressure on for a fast settlement.
Attorney says he only had trace amounts of cocaine in his system...so if that's true it's pretty compelling evidence...or a lie.
I will let the courts settle this one.
I'm not going to believe EITHER side as they try to influence public opinion with half truths.
These cops did the right thing to protect themselves and the medical staff.
Yes … Police officers (1) have a sworn duty to protect the general public and they (2) have a right to protect themselves and only THEN to protect a suspect ...
They DID subdue him, using a taser, which is almost always a non-lethal weapon …
But … Are you trained in "take down" … ??? When I worked on a locked mental health unit, we were all trained in doing a "take down," but that was with a minimum of four staff …
The post event analysis of any *dicey* situation is always so EASY … but on the scene then and there at the time ... isn't always such ...
Wrong, they used tasers(as in more than one), three of them over and over again. They killed him.
Wrong, they used tasers(as in more than one), three of them over and over again. They killed him.
What should the officers have done instead … ??? … and how do you know that … ??? … and what would the outcome have been … ??? … and how do you know that … ???
What should the officers have done instead … ??? … and how do you know that … ??? … and what would the outcome have been … ??? … and how do you know that … ???
There were eyewitnesses including a nurse who saw all three of them taser him. He was already shackled, how many times do you need to taser someone?
There are cops who are abusive and some who shouldn't be in this line of work.
Perfect example is the female cop who just got off for shooting the guy in the back, he wasn't going anywhere, she had already tasered him. On the video she is screaming in fear like a teenage girl who just saw a large spider in the bathroom.
While there are many good cops, just like teachers, doctors, plumbers, there are some who shouldn't be in that line of work?
There were eyewitnesses including a nurse who saw all three of them taser him. He was already shackled, how many times do you need to taser someone?
There are cops who are abusive and some who shouldn't be in this line of work.
Perfect example is the female cop who just got off for shooting the guy in the back, he wasn't going anywhere, she had already tasered him. On the video she is screaming in fear like a teenage girl who just saw a large spider in the bathroom.
While there are many good cops, just like teachers, doctors, plumbers, there are some who shouldn't be in that line of work?
I can't link the video here but I've seen several where a heavily drugged individual shook off the tasings and pulled the barbs out and kept on rampaging.
More information will come out at the trial but if you tase him twice lets say and then sit on him and he goes into cardiac arrest what do you think the lawyer would be saying? They pinned him down and he couldn't breathe.
If they let him run around and he gets hit by a car what does the laywer say? Negligence in restraining him.
His lawyer even says there were only trace amounts of coke but he was by independent accounts really drugged out.
Imagine how hard it can be to restrain someone when if there is any adverse medical event....there will be a lawyer in the press finding fault with it.
Now perhaps they did over-tase him, that will come to light at trial.
I'm just wondering if some of the posters here have ever physically restrained someone? Someone on a bad drug episode?
On the face of things....a guy in his 40's with a history of drug abuse that is high as a kite is a ticking time bomb to restrain without a cardiac event.
I agree. Just FYI, I didn't realize that each Taser discharge is recorded. There were 20, not half a dozen. 15 of them were discharged by one officer in a matter of minutes. Keep in mind this was in front of an Emergency Room. One of the nurses said she saw all 3 police officers using their Tasers at once. Another hospital worker said he asked the police if they wanted Lambert to be examined since he was bleeding. You can see Lambert losing consciousness in the back of the police car, but they still drove away from the hospital.
Do I want someone high on cocaine in my neighborhood? No. Do I think this man probably should have been arrested? Maybe. Would he have died from a cocaine overdose? I have no idea. But that's no excuse at all for using a Taser 20 times on one man by 3 cops.
He was hit with tasers 20 times, during some of that you can see that he is not resisting. At one point he was hit by 3 tasers simultaneously, that's 150k volts. I wonder if the ME knew that when he claimed the guy died from cocaine intoxication which is really a bizarre cause of death. The only time I have seen anyone die from cocaine overdose is if they got into a grand mal seizure while under the influence.
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You think "maybe" he should have been arrested?
