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Old 11-02-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by oceangaia View Post
If you did this search, where's your links?
You are the one asserting the impossibility of tampering to create a malfunction. Did you just pull that idea out of the air, or did you do some research before coming to that conclusion? I've done my research - I won't do yours as well.

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The statements you quoted from me shows exactly what I said - that the machine told the woman she won so she should be paid something, say $1000.
Based on the picture from the original article, the machine said that it was printing the $43 million cash ticket, not that the spin was a winner. AFAIK, there has been nothing provided that would indicate that her spin was actually a winning spin. If her spin in fact wasn't a winner, but the machine said it was printing a cash ticket for some amount of money, do you believe that she should be paid?

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Your understanding of the case must include information not public as i haven't seen anything that stated in any way what game she was playing, what she needed to get for a winning spin, and what her spin actually was.
What have I posted that would lead you conclude that I have some insider information?
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Based on the picture from the original article, the machine said that it was printing the $43 million cash ticket, not that the spin was a winner. AFAIK, there has been nothing provided that would indicate that her spin was actually a winning spin. If her spin in fact wasn't a winner, but the machine said it was printing a cash ticket for some amount of money, do you believe that she should be paid?
Yup. Malfunction. Most likely a software (math overflow) error.

The amount of ignorance on the gaming industry in this thread is astounding. Easy to tell who knows what they're talking about from the terminology used. Most people missed it, but blktoptrvl was dead on with this post:

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Well, for one thing, anyone who goes to a casino should know that winnings in excess of $1200.00 require a hand payout for tax purposes and NOT a voucher print out. Therefore any machine that says it is Printing a $42 million dollar voucher has malfunctioned.

It is sad for her, but it is also a malfunction.
The $1200 limit is set by each jurisdiction, and there is no way it will ever be set to allow a hand pay of $43M.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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I searched yesterday and there were light wands used to trick the machines into paying out. They may have redesigned slots since then but to think they are immune to hacking or tampering is naive
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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Yup. Malfunction. Most likely a software (math overflow) error.

The amount of ignorance on the gaming industry in this thread is astounding. Easy to tell who knows what they're talking about from the terminology used. Most people missed it, but blktoptrvl was dead on with this post:



The $1200 limit is set by each jurisdiction, and there is no way it will ever be set to allow a hand pay of $43M.
Yup the tax records and w-2g has to be issued
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:14 PM
 
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I'm not a gaming gambler type but if I were I'd never set foot in that place again. If I were the owner of the place I'd chalk the loss up to a business loss and pay the lady and make a huge big deal out of how they messed up and their machines were wrong but how they paid anyway because it was the right thing to do. People would flock to that casino and spend their hard earned money thinking they were the next winner.

However now with this dumb move they have alienated all their customers who have lost all faith in any possible winnings and in this tough economy with the competition from so many other casinos they will be closed and out of business in a year or so (if not sooner) just watch.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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I'm not a gaming gambler type but if I were I'd never set foot in that place again. If I were the owner of the place I'd chalk the loss up to a business loss and pay the lady and make a huge big deal out of how they messed up and their machines were wrong but how they paid anyway because it was the right thing to do. People would flock to that casino and spend their hard earned money thinking they were the next winner.

However now with this dumb move they have alienated all their customers who have lost all faith in any possible winnings and in this tough economy with the competition from so many other casinos they will be closed and out of business in a year or so (if not sooner) just watch.
Why would the casino want that? Why would the casino want people to flock to the casino hoping that they would be the next person to receive a glitch. Also, I highly doubt the casino is going to lose any business at all because most people with a hint of common sense know that this was a glitch and wouldn't expect the casino to pay out.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:31 PM
 
Location: SC
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The $1200 limit is set by each jurisdiction, and there is no way it will ever be set to allow a hand pay of $43M.
"Thank you sir. We will be right back with your $43M dollars, please wait here."

♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ Customer listens to the nice casino music while waiting for their cash!

"Can I see your ID? Thank you, please hold out your hand... $100, $200, $300, $400, $500 ...a week later... $43,000,000. Would you like one of our security guards to walk you to your car?
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Old 11-02-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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I searched yesterday and there were light wands used to trick the machines into paying out. They may have redesigned slots since then but to think they are immune to hacking or tampering is naive
You must be mistaken. oceangaia Has repeatedly assured us that what you describe is an impossibility.
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Old 11-02-2016, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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A gambler is never ahead.
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Old 11-02-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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The casino's always have an out since their slots have posted warnings that malfunctions always voids wins.
But yet people still blow their money at the casinos when they could literally be doing 100 other constructive things with it. And if everyone knows that casinos can get off the hook regardless, then they're fools if they think they're entitled to anything even if they did win fair and square. You can try to take that casino to court, but their money is too long.
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