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Old 11-04-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy View Post
At the least the casino should have given her the max payout for that machine, $6500. That's like a drop in the bucket to them.

http://abc7ny.com/news/woman-thinks-she-won-$43m-in-slot-machine-malfunction/1576210/
Certainly they should if only to maintain public confidence in the casino involved.
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If you buy a $3 gallon of milk, and it rings up at $1,000, should you be obligated to pay the $1,000? Or does that only work if you're getting paid?
The difference there is that you haven't left the store with the purchase and money hasn't changed hands. Here the casino has the money for the initial bet so the passage of consideration is complete, at least under New York law.
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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You do know that the casino doesn't manufacture or program the slot machine so, right? They have no way of knowing what a piece of electronics will do when it malfunctions.
Might be in their best interest to become very familiar and intimate in the design and quirks of any machine they put on their property and operate dont you think? Maybe after this they stop using this model or insist the manufacture issue a an upgrade so it never happens again or else they stop buying machines from them.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:19 AM
 
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Might be in their best interest to become very familiar and intimate in the design and quirks of any machine they put on their property and operate dont you think? Maybe after this they stop using this model or insist the manufacture issue a an upgrade so it never happens again or else they stop buying machines from them.
I'm willing to bet that the casino does have staff on hand who know those machines inside and out. When a machine is out of commission, this is money not being made for the casino. They need it fixed as soon as possible and put back out on the floor. The really small casinos probably have a 3rd party company they can call at any time to come look at and repair the machines if needed. An example would be in Vegas seeing a few slot machines inside a gas station. I highly doubt the gas station attendant is qualified to repair the machine in any format.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:45 PM
 
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Certainly they should if only to maintain public confidence in the casino involved.The difference there is that you haven't left the store with the purchase and money hasn't changed hands. Here the casino has the money for the initial bet so the passage of consideration is complete, at least under New York law.
If they want to maintain public confidence they shouldn't just pick and choose whom they decide to pay off machine maximum to for a malfunction when their legal notice says VOID.

That means VOID for everyone.

They give her $6500....everybody that ever had a void is going to be on a class action suit in an instant wanting their money...and everybody going forward as well.

Then what do you tell them?
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:47 PM
 
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I'm willing to bet that the casino does have staff on hand who know those machines inside and out. When a machine is out of commission, this is money not being made for the casino. They need it fixed as soon as possible and put back out on the floor. The really small casinos probably have a 3rd party company they can call at any time to come look at and repair the machines if needed. An example would be in Vegas seeing a few slot machines inside a gas station. I highly doubt the gas station attendant is qualified to repair the machine in any format.
You nailed it.

My relative owns a bar that has some in it.

All he has to do is provide electricity.

He's not allowed to do anything to it and a licensed guy comes by everyone once in a while and takes the money out of it etc. etc.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:49 PM
 
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Might be in their best interest to become very familiar and intimate in the design and quirks of any machine they put on their property and operate dont you think? Maybe after this they stop using this model or insist the manufacture issue a an upgrade so it never happens again or else they stop buying machines from them.
I keep hearing about how companies can make computers that never malfunction from various posters here.

Would you mind telling me which company it is so I can buy one from them?
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Old 11-06-2016, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Casinos are so stingy given how much money they take in. Some people blow their entire paycheck there week after week and they can't afford $6500? I don't gamble because even if you do win you have to put up with the tax BS.. if someone wins $4000 they better have a tax record of their losses or it's really just one big losing battle, actually it already is without the taxes... which is why I don't understand gamblers.
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Old 11-06-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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Casinos are so stingy given how much money they take in. Some people blow their entire paycheck there week after week and they can't afford $6500?
Hey, I mean...I just lost a lot of money at your casino....but I thought it was actually a credit union. Can I um, have my 6500 back because you guys make a lot of money and stuff.

What little faith I had in humanity erodes day by day by the fact that they are little more than chimps in terms of understanding anything statistically based.

Hell, at the bar the other night a guy stated a hitter "was due" because he was 0-2 and batted .333

If you are an uneducated moron then great. It's when you share your views about how things should be....then maybe walk down to the local ER and tell them how to treat patients instead?
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:14 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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If they want to maintain public confidence they shouldn't just pick and choose whom they decide to pay off machine maximum to for a malfunction when their legal notice says VOID.

That means VOID for everyone.

They give her $6500....everybody that ever had a void is going to be on a class action suit in an instant wanting their money...and everybody going forward as well.

Then what do you tell them?
I didn't say as a matter of law. I said as a matter of public confidence. I'll give you an example. The Fair Credit Billing Act requires credit card issues to temporarily credit a customer's account in a dispute with a merchant if the customer disputes the charge, and the customer is in the merchant's state or if not within, I believe, 50 miles of the merchant. Most companies ignore the geographical restrictions to encourage confidence. Let's say I go from New York to a hotel in Orlando, Florida and the mice are not only in Disney World's Magic Kingdom but in my room. Most of the companies will let me dispute the charge, so that travelers feel confident using the card anywhere they go. They don't have to do that.

I would think casinos would do likewise since they presumably want to maintain customer confidence in their solvency and willingness to honor bets.
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Old 11-07-2016, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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No it isnt... THESE IDIOTS ALWAYS TRY TO GET OUT OF PAYING WHEN ONE OF THIER MACHINES STRIKES BIG!!!!!


People should not let them get out of anything -- ITS A BLOODY CASINO,if a machine pays off,YOU HAVE TO PAY!!
Actually, the idiots are the ones who keep playing.
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