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Old 06-17-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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You mean they didn't even offer her the max for the machine.....a lousy $6,500?

How many machines malfunction to the point where'd they'd open the floodgates to future multiple $6,500 payouts.

Other than paying out $6,500 from a company that makes millions, what's the down side of just offering the $6,500 and ending this thing?
Her spin wasn't a $6,500 jackpot winner. It was a $2.25 winner, and they offered her that amount. She refused.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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This isn't the first time this sort of thing happened. There have been multiple cases of slot machines displaying a payout much higher than the actual max payout of the machine. The casino's always have an out since their slots have posted warnings that malfunctions always voids wins.

At the least the casino should have given her the max payout for that machine, $6500. That's like a drop in the bucket to them.

Woman thinks she won $43 million in slot machine malfunction | abc7ny.com

The house always has an out. A lady hit a Megabucks machine at a Casino in Reno a couple years ago that wasn't even the max amount and it was called a malfunction. More often than not, big jackpots are found to be "malfunctions".
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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How many casinos “continue” to accept money being dropped into their slot machines when their machine “malfunctioned” in “their” favor? I never heard or read about a casino giving back to the user playing the slot machine a dime if it failed to the casinos benefit.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Personally, I feel like if you're sucker enough to take to gambling, you have to understand that it's a gamble and that the house is ALWAYS going to win.... Sorry for her loss but she knew what she was getting into.
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Old 06-17-2017, 08:14 PM
 
Location: USA
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Daddy need a new pair of shoes, does he?

Casinos don't stay in business by paying out winners.

The racetrack is the only establishment where the windows clean the people.
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Old 06-18-2017, 03:03 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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There is a lot of misinformation and stupid rants in this thread.

Over and over and over, people are saying "the casino should pay her the max payout of 6500" followed by another post that says "the gaming commission says they cannot do that pursuant to state law".

It's one thing for a low IQ gambler to think she's owed 43 million dollars, but why would a lawyer waste any of his time suing the casino when paying her anything more than $2.25 violates state law? (apparently a complimentary steak dinner is okay though) What does this idiot/greedy lawyer think a lawsuit is for, to overturn the legislature and make up your own laws?

I've played slot machines lots of times in my life and only once had a malfunction. I got free games at a machine where you select buttons on the touch screen above the mechanical reels (to determine how many free spins you get), but nothing registered. It just sat there, waiting, as if I wasn't doing anything. I got the attention of an employee, who then called a tech. The tech put in her employee card, entered a PIN, used her keys to open the machine, pushed some buttons inside of it, then closed it and locked it, and voila, the touch screen worked. Whew! I was worried that I would be given only my $2 bet back, which I certainly didn't want, as 10 or 20 free spins will win more than that.

re gambling in general -- it's not as bad as some of you make it out to be. It's entertainment with a chance to win anywhere between a few dollars to thousands of dollars, or even as much as 15 million dollars at Megabucks (a statewide progressive slot machine in Nevada).

If you put in an amount equal to somewhere between 10 and 50 times bet, and play 'double or nothing', the chance of winning is around 20%. While it may seem like an awful deal to have a 1 in 5 chance of only doubling your money, the reason is because "double or nothing" means winning the original balance to *at least* double your original "investment", which is not just 2x, but can be 5x or 10x or 100x that, so the average win in "double or nothing" is more than just double. If you win some but not double and cash out, your chance of winning is higher, obviously. I've done statistical analysis on this; not making it up. Video poker is much easier to analyze and has a lower house edge but isn't as exciting as slot machines.

Many states publish payback percentages for slots machines, sometimes by area (e.g., in Nevada, there are figures for Reno, Las Vegas Strip, all of Clark County), and sometimes by individual property (Illinois I think). Generally speaking, you lose an average of 5% to 10% of each bet, depending on how much you bet (5% loss if you bet $1 or more, 10% loss if you play a penny denomination).

What causes people to lose a lot of money is gambling way too long. For example, insert a $20 bill into a penny machine and hit the "50 credits" (50 cents) button. On average, you lose 10% of that, or 5 cents. A nickel loss per spin is not going to bankrupt you. However, if you're greedy and insist that the balance reach $100, your chances of success are quite low, not because the casino is cheating you, but because you win some and lose some over and over and over, those nickels add up until you've lost a nickel 400 times!

The key is to have a reasonable bankroll (an amount you can afford to lose), and if you win a reasonable amount, cash out ... quit while you're ahead!
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Old 06-18-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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I think she should get the sixty five hundred in this case. Seems fair. What slot machine pays tens of millions like that though? She really thought that was a slot payout?
There are machines that have a jackpot pooled with several other casinos over the internet that can reach several million before someone wins it.
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Old 06-18-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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The house always has an out. A lady hit a Megabucks machine at a Casino in Reno a couple years ago that wasn't even the max amount and it was called a malfunction. More often than not, big jackpots are found to be "malfunctions".

Can you use facts, reasoning, and logic to backup your claim here? I'd bet your house you can't.
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Old 06-18-2017, 04:56 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Can you use facts, reasoning, and logic to backup your claim here? I'd bet your house you can't.
I bet you the house that the casinos win the bulk of the litigated claims. The Courts know that the casinos would go bust if forced to honor a $43,000,000 payout.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Personally, I feel like if you're sucker enough to take to gambling, you have to understand that it's a gamble and that the house is ALWAYS going to win.... Sorry for her loss but she knew what she was getting into.
The house may win overall in the long run, but many individuals walk out big winners. It is like the lottery - any individual's chance of winning is incredibly small, but the odds of Someone eventually winning are 100%. An individual has an equal chance of being that Someone as every other player.
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