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Old 01-12-2017, 12:08 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Dang, the team of semi-literate guys that are paid under the table and given other illegal perks beat the other team of guys with similar circumstances.

That really must make people proud about their mediocre (or worse) colleges to win football games with essentially mercenaries that mostly couldn't even reach their low standards of admission and on occasion graduate while still reading at a gradeschool level.

Reminds me of the guy with the Moderator cut: .car at school bragging about his car stereo.

#golfclap

It's sad reality. It's spread to even the Ivy leagues, sports insanity took root in an era when a highschool education was all it took to have a nice house and live a good life. It's a relic of the post war era.
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Picked last in every sport in school, huh?

Some of us were not only pretty good at sports, but pretty good in the classroom, too. I guess you feel some type of way that you'll never have a stadium full of people cheering you on when you're performing a skill relatively few people possess.


Heck of a play call by Dabo and company and great execution by Clemson. That was just as good as last year's title game between the same two teams.

Not worth destroying a TV, though.
Whether someone was 'picked last' in sports has nothing to do with having an opinion about sports. If you were also a good student, you should try to respond with something other than an insult, or an air of superiority.

If you played college sports, particularly D1, while you certainly knew guys that were good students, you also certainly knew guys, especially guys on a full ride, who had no interest in going to class, no concern about grades. Mathguy's basic premise had validity. These days, D1 sports, especially football and basketball, often serve as development leagues for the pro's, nothing more. Just look at the graduation rates. For every athlete who is serious about an education, there is probably one who is at school for sports, and only sports.

It is disingenuous to state otherwise.
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Whether someone was 'picked last' in sports has nothing to do with having an opinion about sports. If you were also a good student, you should try to respond with something other than an insult, or an air of superiority.

If you played college sports, particularly D1, while you certainly knew guys that were good students, you also certainly knew guys, especially guys on a full ride, who had no interest in going to class, no concern about grades. Mathguy's basic premise had validity. These days, D1 sports, especially football and basketball, often serve as development leagues for the pro's, nothing more. Just look at the graduation rates. For every athlete who is serious about an education, there is probably one who is at school for sports, and only sports.

It is disingenuous to state otherwise.
For someone to go to the extent to bash all athletes, students who attend those universities and their fans, there's more than just an opinion there.

I'm quite aware of the athletes who were only in school because they had to, before they could go pro. You know what else? That isn't limited to just student athletes. There are plenty of non-athletes who had no interest in going to class (or dropped out of high school or dropped out/didn't go to college) and only went because they felt they had to or because their parents made them. Plenty of non-athletes cheated, slept, smoked, snorted and drank their way through college or out of college.

For every student who is serious about an education, there is definitely one who is at school for partying, to get their trust fund, to get a degree so they can apply for most jobs, etc and only those things.

He could've stated his point (or better yet, not bother to post, since he clearly doesn't like football) in a more mature way. But his approach screams insecurity, jealousy, bitterness, something along those lines. I can't imagine someone having such a grossly strong opinion about people they don't know without harboring some sort of issue. His post reeked of hostility. So, I'm not going to be okay with him bashing all student athletes. And it isn't those athletes' fault to begin with, but the fans, boosters, donors, etc., who know where the money is at. And it isn't with the math or econ majors. Sorry.

You got "an air of superiority" from my post and not his, which refers to "team of semi-literate guys" and the fans/students of those "mediocre (or worse) colleges"? Didn't realize Clemson University was a mediocre school.

Lol.
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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Fake. There would be no reason for anyone to be videoing this. Staged.
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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Fake. There would be no reason for anyone to be videoing this. Staged.
Sure there is. Knowing the guy, they probably expected some degree of freak out, and wanted to capture whatever it would be.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:56 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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For someone to go to the extent to bash all athletes, students who attend those universities and their fans, there's more than just an opinion there.

I'm quite aware of the athletes who were only in school because they had to, before they could go pro. You know what else? That isn't limited to just student athletes. There are plenty of non-athletes who had no interest in going to class (or dropped out of high school or dropped out/didn't go to college) and only went because they felt they had to or because their parents made them. Plenty of non-athletes cheated, slept, smoked, snorted and drank their way through college or out of college.

For every student who is serious about an education, there is definitely one who is at school for partying, to get their trust fund, to get a degree so they can apply for most jobs, etc and only those things.

He could've stated his point (or better yet, not bother to post, since he clearly doesn't like football) in a more mature way. But his approach screams insecurity, jealousy, bitterness, something along those lines. I can't imagine someone having such a grossly strong opinion about people they don't know without harboring some sort of issue. His post reeked of hostility. So, I'm not going to be okay with him bashing all student athletes. And it isn't those athletes' fault to begin with, but the fans, boosters, donors, etc., who know where the money is at. And it isn't with the math or econ majors. Sorry.

You got "an air of superiority" from my post and not his, which refers to "team of semi-literate guys" and the fans/students of those "mediocre (or worse) colleges"? Didn't realize Clemson University was a mediocre school.

Lol.
That chip on your shoulder must get heavy at times.
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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please drop the "dumb jock vs picked last" thread hijack.
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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SEC fans have an unhealthy fandom with their football teams. They live and die with their team.
if you only knew........... between bama and the saints, its get wild.
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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I recall many years ago, the TV brick. A sponge shaped and colored like a brick. It was for these kind of situations. Looks like he didn't have one.
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:35 PM
 
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At least he didn't punch his wife or girlfriend. Here in Columbus police report that domestic violence incidents increase on days when Ohio State loses.
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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Good thing he wasn't at the game. He might have punched the person sitting next to him.
Or in a sports bar!!
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