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Sorry, but I actually know all about this and it's not good. They pay these people less than minimum wage because of a loophole in the law that allows them to do so. Some earn as low as twenty-five cents an hour working for Goodwill! Most of their disabled workers are socially isolated and have few, if any, family to advocate for them, in this "job training" program. It is legal exploitation.
So legal? Yes. Ethical? No.
Nice try, I've done my research on Goodwill.
Maybe you've done your research, but you didn't present all of the facts.
According to this article, the "low pay" isn't what it looks like. Some of the disabled people working there have to stop working before their shift is over, and wait for their case worker or whoever to come pick them up, but meanwhile Goodwill is required to count all of the time. So if someone does one hour of work, then stops, that one hour's pay is divided by 8, for example. Also, some of these people are so disabled as to barely be able to do any work, and their pay is pro-rated to account for that.
I guess I agree that if they're going to employ people, just pay them prevailing wages and don't use the loopholes to weasel out of it. But, if they do that, a whole bunch of disabled folks will lose their jobs. Congratulations, you just put a bunch of marginal people out of work.
Maybe you've done your research, but you didn't present all of the facts.
According to this article, the "low pay" isn't what it looks like. Some of the disabled people working there have to stop working before their shift is over, and wait for their case worker or whoever to come pick them up, but meanwhile Goodwill is required to count all of the time. So if someone does one hour of work, then stops, that one hour's pay is divided by 8, for example. Also, some of these people are so disabled as to barely be able to do any work, and their pay is pro-rated to account for that.
I guess I agree that if they're going to employ people, just pay them prevailing wages and don't use the loopholes to weasel out of it. But, if they do that, a whole bunch of disabled folks will lose their jobs. Congratulations, you just put a bunch of marginal people out of work.
Honestly, they would be better off not working, than working for such incredibly low wages. Their bus fare often costs more than what they earn in one shift.
The amount they earn at their Good will job is not even good for pocket money, much less a living wage.
The sad reason that many of them continue, is that it helps their self esteem to feel they are employed and doing something.
I had a relative who did what the call a "created job", he packed lightbulbs in boxes, was very good at it, had Down Syndrome and he earned so little it wound up being a waste of his time. The foster home where he lived made him turn over his money to them.
These people get exploited like crazy and there is often nobody around to advocate for them.
Being a cheapskate can kill you ... The original story is that she was previously reported for being in one in the middle of the night.
Sounds like she was taking, not giving, being as clothes and shoes were found on the ground outside the box.
well hopefully her people sue , I know suing a charity is not cool, but it appears they could have prevented this by having a safe design. And if it is not the first time well they were grossly negligent .
I have owned two companies we did costly and difficult testing to make sure we did not endanger our customers, and if we did we would have been sued into the dirt and rightly so.
Yes those rotten guys should make their boxes safe to steal from without getting hurt.
I wouldn't take a Hummer from you if you gave me one with a clean title. Even with gas at $2.60/gal. for Regular Unleaded, you are looking at $200 to fill it up and you will fill it up often if you drive further than to the end of your driveway. No wonder she was stealing clothes out of a Donations box...
$2.60??!!! Errrp. They just announced today we will be under $2.00 shortly. glad to not be from Oregon. Those things have a 77+ gallon gas tank!!!. Wow. I thought my truck was bad at 30 gallons. I also did not realize those things got that bad of mileage. I thought they were about the same as a truck (15-18). I have to fill up about once a week and that is annoying enough. Filling a 77 gallon tank every day would make me nuts. Spend all day at the gas station. Some of those pumps are really slow, especially in winter.
I don't think those donation boxes should be put out anyway. Wild animals often get inside them and there are a host of other issues. And they are magnets for theft, as well.
I don't see the customer when I put things in a consignment sale, therefore, I do not have to haggle with them and they are required to pay the price or not purchase the item. Consignment sales don't allow haggling (or at least the ones I sell at don't). Garage sales are different story.
I guess I didn't make myself clear. (Sorry.) Of course, I know the difference in the two types of sales, but what I meant was why is one better than the other in the mind of "busybodies" who would criticize someone for trying to get some extra money for reselling older things no longer usable to them that they already paid for or were given as gifts.
I just don't see why one way is more ethical or "better" than the other, except as you pointed out, consignment sales are less hassle.
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