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Old 06-26-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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How would a 2-year-old be able to get out of a locked car? Even if the keys were in the car, like she said, how would a 2-year-old figure out how that worked? Would a 2-year old even be able to push a car door open?
They couldn't, and she knows that.

Again, read the article. She changed her story several times.

Ridiculous to call her stupid or a moron. This was done on purpose.

This is pure evil, her mug shot shows dead eyes.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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Or how about this........


Mummy puts her purse in the back seat .?


No woman that I know of can go more than 10 feet away from her purse. Ever.


Need purse, see child in back seat, remove both......


A second stupidity that happens " all the time ".


I just went into the store for a minute.......and car thief takes car with kid in it ..... due to keys left in ignition switch.


Here in Ontario.....car stolen with keys in it ?Car insurance coverage will be denied , and Police MAY issue an offence notice.


Jim B.
If she forgets a human being, a purse will also be forgotten.


Auto makers have considered sensors but imagine the liability...


"It's Ford's fault my kid died!" Ugh.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Mummy puts her purse in the back seat .?

This is always what I did when my kids were infants and toddlers. If you do it all the time, it becomes part of your routine, so you are much less likely to deviate from it, and often, these incidents occur because someone deviated from their routine (i.e. the other parent taking a child to daycare, someone going somewhere they usually don't etc).

Now, in the case of this incident, it was an intentional criminal act, and sadly, it's not the first time that's happened. I'm sure many people recall the Father from GA who was convicted of murder last year for a similar crime.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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There's a big difference between this sort of thing versus letting them stay in the car for 1-2 minutes while you pay for gas, especially if it's not hot and/or it's raining. The latter I've done it numerous times, my kids now are 8 & 10 and get let themselves out but I'd do it again if they were 1 & 3, in a minute.
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Old 06-26-2017, 01:39 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Not to mention pets left in hot cars, too. This issue gets lots of publicity every summer. What is wrong with people that they keep doing this?
Just the other day, on Mamaroneck Avenue in White Plains someone was leaving a dog in his car. I didn't think the window was cracked open enough. Until I saw that he put only 15 minutes into the parking meter I was going to call the police and have them break the car windows.
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Old 06-26-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Just outside of Portland
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Oregon just passed a law where it's legal to break the window and remove the child or pet if you think their lives are in danger.

But you have to call a cop first and wait until they get there after you break the window.

Portland woman breaks into stranger's Mercedes to save dog | OregonLive.com
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Old 06-26-2017, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Rio Rancho, NM
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If people put their phones next to their children it would eliminate two potential problems. It would prohibit them from texting while driving and hopefully serve as a reminder that something much more precious than their phone is in the the back seat.

On a different note, what struck me about the woman's mugshot was that she looks more annoyed than remorseful.
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Old 06-26-2017, 03:35 PM
 
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Oregon just passed a law where it's legal to break the window and remove the child or pet if you think their lives are in danger.

But you have to call a cop first and wait until they get there after you break the window.

Portland woman breaks into stranger's Mercedes to save dog | OregonLive.com
Well good for Oregon, but you don't wait for a law or a cop if you see this going on.
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Old 06-26-2017, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Not to mention pets left in hot cars, too. This issue gets lots of publicity every summer. What is wrong with people that they keep doing this?

These people are probably all on drugs of some sort and their attention spans are shot. Fortunately, Oregon just enacted a law that absolves people from all criminal and financial responsibility, who break open cars, to rescue children and pets.

Years ago, I found a closed-up car in the sun, that had a small dog inside, that was in great distress. It was on a university campus, so I called the Security Office over a nearby emergency call-box. They said they'd send someone. Ten minutes later, a hugely obese security officer came down the street eating a large ice-cream cone. She walked slowly enough, so she had it finished by the time she got there.

I pointed out the dog, which by then, was collapsed on the floorboards and gasping. She said there was nothing that she could do. Then, an armed city police officer came. I told him I was going to use a large rock to break a window. He said he would arrest and cuff me if I tried, for attempted vandalism.

After several more minutes, the woman who owned the car and was a professor at the school, showed up. I think the dog was dead, as it showed no signs of life, when she opened the door. She looked at me and told me to "Get the hell away from my car!". She was allowed to leave and no action was taken against her. The protection of the car was the police's priority, the dog was not.

it's troubling to think what they'd have done, if a child, rather than a dog, was in the car. Actually, if so, I would have broken a window, before even calling anyone. I realized later, that's what I should have done for the dog, but I thought that calling security would produce an immediate and positive response, as they were located just half a block away. If you're capable, the best action to take in such situations, is to do it yourself and not waste time, trying to enlist help from apathetic government employees. By calling them, instead of acting directly, I ensured the dog's demise. They presided over its death and blocked me from doing anything about it.

But the college security office put me on its list of potentially dangerous persons and often harassed me, because of this incident. I spent every afternoon on campus, as a volunteer instructor, in Adaptive PE classes for disabled students. The PE Department wanted to appoint me to a graduate teaching fellowship, the next year, as I'd done well in my volunteer work. But this was sabotaged, because of my "record" with the Security Office. The dog died a horrible death and my whole life was changed, because of this incident.
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Old 06-26-2017, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Oregon just passed a law where it's legal to break the window and remove the child or pet if you think their lives are in danger.

But you have to call a cop first and wait until they get there after you break the window.

Portland woman breaks into stranger's Mercedes to save dog | OregonLive.com
Ohio put a similar law on the books last year. It's already saved the lives of some dogs left in cars.
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