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Old 07-14-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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So this is the equivalent of doing a data file transfer, where the actual physical file has not left the building, but a representation of it is duplicated elsewhere?
Let me just refer you to the paper written by the Chinese scientists who performed the experiment. They explain it better than I can.

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1707/1707.00934.pdf
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Dessert
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so it's more like the food replicators on Star Trek?

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Despite the name, no actual teleportation of the photon itself took place. Don't think in terms of Star Trek where an object is dematerialized and reassembled in another location. What actually occurred is that via quantum entanglement, which Albert Einstein called spooky action at a distance, a photon on a satellite in space was made to assume the exact characteristics of a photon on earth which never left the earth. Basically it was information about the photon that was teleported and copied onto the photon on the satellite, rather than the photon itself.

When two particles are entangled, what happens to one particle instantaneously happens to the other particle even though they are physically separated by distance.

Here is another article on the recent experiment.

https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/c...hoton-to-space
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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This actually confirms one statement I heard from a wise man.
That modern Elite is heavily investing into two researches: practical immortality (300-400 yrs lifespan) and opening portals to other dimensions. All this "teleportation" (which really is not teleportation) research is headed in the 2nd direction.

Also, from what I gather from few educated posts here, it simply proves that we live in past and future but in NOW, or reality, everything is present everywhere at the same time. Same INSTANCE. They simply tapped into same "object" (are photons even materiel?) present in NOW.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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Was it a BK Whopper?
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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A quantum object is not an object as we know them. And some are stranger than others.
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Old 07-14-2017, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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If I was a scientist, I would shoot a teleporter beam through a teleporter to see what would happen if I beamed a beam
Beaming a teleporter beam?

That conjours thoughts of Batman & Manbat:

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Old 07-14-2017, 01:42 PM
 
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"Scientists Just Teleported an Object Into Space for the First Time"

No, by any reasonable definition of the words "teleported" or "object", it didn't happen.

Maybe it was a document poorly translated from Chinese that is the culprit here.

A photon is definitely not an object, and there is no way to isolate or identify a single photon to say you teleported it anywhere.

I guess teleportation is the new Cold Fusion.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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"Scientists Just Teleported an Object Into Space for the First Time"

No, by any reasonable definition of the words "teleported" or "object", it didn't happen.

Maybe it was a document poorly translated from Chinese that is the culprit here.

A photon is definitely not an object, and there is no way to isolate or identify a single photon to say you teleported it anywhere.

I guess teleportation is the new Cold Fusion.
This explains what is meant by Quantum teleportation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation

So does the paper written by the actual Chinese Scientists who performed the experiment.

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1707/1707.00934.pdf
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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What is being referred to is ''quantum information.'' A unit of quantum information is called a qubit and can contain information about the state of a photon or electron which can be communicated from one entangled photon to its partner which has been spatially separated from it.

I read a paper by the team that performed the experiment. Quoting the paper;
''Quantum teleportation allows faithful transfer of unknown quantum states from one object to another over long distances, without physical traveling of the object itself.''

''Here, we report the first quantum teleportation of independent single-photon qubits from a ground observatory to a low earth orbit satellite---through an up-link channel---with a distance of up to 1400 km.

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1707/1707.00934.pdf
For the teleportation to work, both a classical channel for communication and a quantum channel (entanglement) are required.

Full details are provided in the paper if anyone is interested in reading them.

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1707/1707.00934.pdf

I read the paper three times and I'm still not clear on all of it, but I'm working on it.
You only need to know they cannot transmit information via entanglement.
Put simply, it cannot be used as a form of instant communication between people at cosmological distances.
I believe they will find an elegant way of getting around that eventually.
But as of today, nope.

Again, this is nothing new, they did the innsbruck experiment 17 yrs ago.
It was already proven to be viable at any distance, across the room or across the universe.
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Old 07-14-2017, 08:05 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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You only need to know they cannot transmit information via entanglement.
Put simply, it cannot be used as a form of instant communication between people at cosmological distances.
I believe they will find an elegant way of getting around that eventually.
But as of today, nope.

Again, this is nothing new, they did the innsbruck experiment 17 yrs ago.
It was already proven to be viable at any distance, across the room or across the universe.
I just got through telling you what they mean by information.
''Teleportation is the ability to communicate the information in one quantum particle from one place to a physically distant location without transporting the particle itself.''

https://fisher.osu.edu/~schroeder.9/AMIS634/quantum.pdf

''Quantum teleportation is a process by which quantum information (e.g. the exact state of an atom or photon) can be transmitted (exactly, in principle) from one location to another, with the help of classical communication and previously shared quantum entanglement between the sending and receiving location.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation
That is what quantum teleportation is, and that is what quantum information is.


And I'll be the judge of what I need to know. This made the news because it's the first time quantum teleportation has been done from ground to low earth orbit.

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